Cam Newton looking better and better!

[SuperMan]

Lol shows how much you know. Vince has been pretty decent in the pros besides being a nut case. His ablities as a qb are not the reason he's out as the titans starter. Vince is a winner more so than any qb in that class.

Jay Culter Last i checked the bears are still in the playoffs.

[micnificent28]

speed yes but not in quickness.he is just as quick.the guy can change directions just as quick. that award has been giving out already....

No.........vicks change of direction and quickness is unmatched at the qb position. Newton is big and kinda clunky,while he is very quick for a guy that big he is no vick.

[TheRealDeal]

speed yes but not in quickness.he is just as quick.the guy can change directions just as quick. that award has been giving out already....

LOL okay, he changes directions just as fast as Vick. :willy_nilly:

[DaCityKats]

CJ almost out rushed them by himself. But the point still stands that having a good game in college means nothing about how well that talent will translate to the NFL.

well you threw up that he had cj, a good rushing game helps out any qb. going against top notch talent in the sec/ playing on a big stage can translate to the league but not on a skills level. he has the tools to be a big ben type player.

[SuperMan]

No.........vicks change of direction and quickness is unmatched at the qb position. Newton is big and kinda clunky,while he is very quick for a guy that big he is no vick.

Rep. first thing you have said that i agree with.

[rippadonn]

He's not even close to as quick as Vick, or fast for that matter. Don't get all butthurt, just admit you made a mistake. These battles didn't go well for people in the past.

Vick is so much quicker and more elusive than Cam it's ridiculous. He goes from standstill to top speed faster than anyone I've seen. Cam is a very slow starter but once he gets going is fast. The key to stopping Cam is getting him before he gets started, which takes him a while compared to Vick.

I don't claim to be some kind of expert know it all on all of football.

I do know that the difference between the two is two tenths or less. Not much.

We both agree that Cam isn't as fast as Vick, I said that. I am going to stand by saying that he is quick (side to side, diagonal), which he is.

Vick is quick and fast yes but he doesn't deserve a BJ because he isn't the fastest or quickest.

[panthers55]

I'm not comparing him to Luck. I didn't mention Luck once in that post. You ASSUMED he mastered it. All you know is he can operate it. He might not know as much as you think. I think that if he had mastered it, the coaches would give him more free reign.

How would you know what the coaches are thinking or how their system is managed. He has mastered it judging by his numbers and success. Could he do better or master it more thoroughly. Of course he could. Your expectations that a quarterback should be able to master a system and be able to call audibles and make all the reads after 14 games in the system is ridiculous. You are setting a higher standard for him than anyone else because of some bias you possess. Similar to the way you watch a play and assume you know what the read is or what the quarterback is doing without seeing the playbook or watching game tape. You seem to making a lot of assumptions here lately while you ride your high horse waiting for a fall.

But then again I forgot. For you, this is a win- lose battle of wits to prove your intelligence and football knowledge rather than a forum to exchange ideas and explore ideas about our favorite football team.

[DaCityKats]

what the hell dose this mean :out:

i meant he was a titan before cj.

[micnificent28]

I don't claim to be some kind of expert know it all on all of football.

I do know that the difference between the two is two tenths or less. Not much.

We both agree that Cam isn't as fast as Vick, I said that. I am going to stand by saying that he is quick (side to side, diagonal), which he is.

Vick is quick and fast yes but he doesn't deserve a BJ because he isn't the fastest or quickest.

Two is two tenths is a huge diffrence in football. Thats the diffrence between reggie bush and brandon Lafell. Its the diffrence between Chris Johnson and steve smith.

[micnificent28]

How would you know what the coaches are thinking or how their system is managed. He has mastered it judging by his numbers and success. Could he do better or master it more thoroughly. Of course he could. Your expectations that a quarterback should be able to master a system and be able to call audibles and make all the reads after 14 games in the system is ridiculous. You are setting a higher standard for him than anyone else because of some bias you possess. Similar to the way you watch a play and assume you know what the read is or what the quarterback is doing without seeing the playbook or watching game tape. You seem to making a lot of assumptions here lately while you ride your high horse waiting for a fall.

I agree he is clearly kind of bias against Cam.

[DaCityKats]

No.........vicks change of direction and quickness is unmatched at the qb position. Newton is big and kinda clunky,while he is very quick for a guy that big he is no vick.

unmatched not.newton will surprise you guys at the combine, just look at your sig.he does a jump juke and two or three dbs are stuck in place bc of the move. remember he is 6'6 250, so what looks slow and clunky is not so.

[rippadonn]

No.........vicks change of direction and quickness is unmatched at the qb position. Newton is big and kinda clunky,while he is very quick for a guy that big he is no vick.

Yeah, at QB but QB's aren't running away other QBs they run from LBs and CBs and at the elite college level Newton runs away from them.

[SuperMan]

Two is two tenths is a huge difference in football. That's the difference between Reggie bush and Brandon La fell. Its the difference between Chris Johnson and Steve smith.

While you misspelled half the words in that sentence I'm going to overlook that because your right in the NFL 2 tenths is the equivalent of being beat by 4 yards on a 40 yard route.

[rippadonn]

Two is two tenths is a huge diffrence in football. Thats the diffrence between reggie bush and brandon Lafell. Its the diffrence between Chris Johnson and steve smith.

Also the difference between Vick and Julius Peppers. Who is the better player?

Not by much, all I'm sayin'.