Cam Newton looking better and better!

[Lumps]

I don't question his character, he isn't that bad guys. I question his maturity, consistency and his dedication to the game, has any recent player gone #1 overall and only played one year in college? Just not enough to bank on him.

[DirtyMagic97]

If you don't watch college football and only look at highlights and what you hear form other people, your opinion of how good he can or can't be is irrelevant at best.

There are plenty of reasons why not but to discuss them you have to watch him play complete games not highlights.

Edit:

Comparing his quickness to Vick is insulting.

This.

If you don't watch and understand how college football works, your opinion is probably quite skewed in this matter. Not saying that my opinion is absolutely valid because I watch college, but I think it does provide some help.

And Newton is definitely nowhere even close to as quick as Vick.

[MadHatter]

Seems to me the majority of posters cracking on Newton are either angry because Luck went back to school and now they don't want any quarterback, or are Clausen supporters not wanting him to get replaced.

There is absolutely nothing to suggest Newton will be a bust. He has all the physical tools and numerous reports suggest he has the work ethic and mental toughness to make the transition to the NFL. He has been successful at every level and has shown he can pick up football systems like he did at Binn and Auburn in a matter of months. Sure he will need more work at the pro-level and the leap to the pros is quite steep for many players. Yet who is better? Truth is he is the best player in college and is easily worthy of a number 1 pick. There is absolutely no reason to suggest he will be a bust at all except he can run well and he is black. For me those are lame stereotypical attitudes that we should really be able to get past.

Will we pick him? I don't have a clue, but to call him a sure bust just points out either an ignorance of football or a bias against physical running quarterbacks who can throw a 40 yard pass on a rope. I really think if we pick him we will be looking back in a few years reflecting on the moment we found our franchise quarterback.

The only question/issue I have around Newton is how long of a project is he. Due to the offensive philosphy of Auburn and Newton's physical ability, I am not sure how well he is at reading through his progressions. He really stuck me as a one read and then run QB....much like Vick was at VT. And you see how long it took Vick to become a complete QB in this league.

I don't know if he will be a bust, but Newton will definitely be a multi-year project before he is a complete NFL QB.

[MadHatter]

Some of these things were said about Vick but with a great QB coach and head coach look what Vick has become. If he had a O line the guy would be truly great.

Newton may have a better arm if not equal :eek: Better size (6,6 260lbs), and be just as quick and elusive.

All of this "character" stuff doesn't win football games. Sometimes you need some mean, salty, and rude SOBs.

Don't compare this guy to anyone else. Look at the guy and why he may be the best player in the county, even over Andrew Luck. What more does he have to do for some of you?

I'm not a Cam guy, really don't watch college ball. Why wouldn't this guy garner a #1 pick and why wouldn't he start right away we ARE apparently going young anyway!?

At best he's Big Ben at worst Josh Freeman IMO.

If we "go after" a QB coach to be our OC we may be able to get something out of a Jimmy Clausen or Cam Newton. So why not?

Vick was in the league a long time before he developed any of those skills.

[monstercat]

Cam may not be quite as quick as Vick, but at his size, I doubt there is a player in this draft that can match Cam.

In fact, besides Peppers, can anybody here name a Panthers player (any position) that could match 6'6" 250lbs with a 4.5 40? And he can juke out DB's...I have watched a few of his games and he does that pretty consistently.

Is he a project? Absolutely. It's not like there is another player in this draft that will get us to the Superbowl next year anyway though, so we're all gonna have to be patient with whoever the QB is.

[rippadonn]

If you don't watch college football and only look at highlights and what you hear form other people, your opinion of how good he can or can't be is irrelevant at best.

There are plenty of reasons why not but to discuss them you have to watch him play complete games not highlights.

Edit:

Comparing his quickness to Vick is insulting.

I have watched one game but I am not a follower so I haven't studied the guy apparently you have, huh?

Fast and quick are two different things, Vick is faster, you would know the difference if you actually played a sport, so yes he may be as quick. Think shifty.

[panthers55]

I don't question his character, he isn't that bad guys. I question his maturity, consistency and his dedication to the game, has any recent player gone #1 overall and only played one year in college? Just not enough to bank on him.

He playing on the biggest stage in college. carried a mediocre team to the national championship 2 years in a row, and has mastered 2 different offenses in 2 years and won the Heisman. The question is why everyone is trying so hard to find faults with the talented guy in the draft. A lot of guys have gone number 1 as quarterbacks with a lot less talent and pedigree. Newton's intangibles are only surpassed by his physical talent. I was on the luck wagon but said all along if we couldn't get him, I would be happy to get Newton. Sure he will be rough around the edges and might need a year or two but he is much more talented than Josh Freeman and look where the Bucs are right now. I would be fine with that in a year or two. And I think Newton will pick it up quicker than Freeman. When you look at his potential impact versus Green, it really isn't close.

I also said I wanted Rivera as head coach given who they have interviewed.

[rippadonn]

"Kiss the trophy beeyatch!"- Cam Newton

[TheRealDeal]

I have watched one game but I am not a follower so I haven't studied the guy apparently you have, huh?

Fast and quick are two different things, Vick is faster, you would know the difference if you actually played a sport, so yes he may be as quick. Think shifty.

He's not even close to as quick as Vick, or fast for that matter. Don't get all butthurt, just admit you made a mistake. These battles didn't go well for people in the past.

Vick is so much quicker and more elusive than Cam it's ridiculous. He goes from standstill to top speed faster than anyone I've seen. Cam is a very slow starter but once he gets going is fast. The key to stopping Cam is getting him before he gets started, which takes him a while compared to Vick.

[grateflday]

..... I am not sure how well he is at reading through his progressions. He really stuck me as a one read and then run QB.....

That is one of the biggest comments I have heard from people as a negative with Newton when they are talking about him. I heard some guys talking how the offensive calls are pretty much "one primary wr, if he not open then Cam runs". So the question is , can he be taught or have the ability to drop back and read through his progression and we will have the guys in here to teach him that.

My question for those who watched college ball is what kind of QB was Freeman in college?

[SuperMan]

two words

Spread Offense.....

[TheRealDeal]

That is one of the biggest comments I have heard from people as a negative with Newton when they are talking about him. I heard some guys talking how the offensive calls are pretty much "one primary wr, if he not open then Cam runs". So the question is , can he be taught or have the ability to drop back and read through his progression and we will have the guys in here to teach him that.

My question for those who watched college ball is what kind of QB was Freeman in college?

That's also a major issue with him. His footwork is very lazy/sloppy even for someone coming from a shotgun offense. He's going to need more work than people on here realize.

[micnificent28]

two words

Spread Offense.....

The spread is everywhere these days. Bradford ran it so did Colt mccoy. Shouldn't change the way you draft a qb these days. It helps to run a college pro offense but not as much as you'd think, just look a jimmy.

[TheRealDeal]

The spread is everywhere these days. Bradford ran it so did Colt mccoy. Shouldn't change the way you draft a qb these days. It helps to run a college pro offense but not as much as you'd think, just look a jimmy.

The offenses Bradford and McCoy ran were very different from what Cam runs FYI.