Panthers Huddle

[frash.exe]

....taking responsibility like players always do to keep morale up....

[magnus]

We already have good schemes, it's the execution that's the problem. I heard players admitting to defensive mistakes all year long. Why is that?

the players didn't look prepared, the assistant coaches leave, then the DC leaves due to burnout. I think people put the head coach in that equation as a problem when maybe he wasn't.

[monstercat]

If you ask me, some of that lack of preperation has to be on the players themselves. If you don't understand something, you ask questions and you study until you know it without having to think too much on the field.

BTW, I hope some people here have been paying attention to how far off both the Steelers and the Cardinals have had their corners playing off the wide outs tonight. I saw some press coverage from the Steelers, but they have been giving 8-10yd cushions just as often, if not more often. This idea that Trgovac made his CB's play off all the time, or that nobody but the Panthers ever do it, is just plain BS.

[engine9]

As a good coord should. Buddy Ryan's 46 defense is to me the highest example of this in my lifetime.

46 was badass. I thought we ran it some in '05.

[mantal]

I find it funny how Fox took credit for fixing the offense.

I'm starting to really hate him.

Let's see, Fox/Hurney hired Davidson and drafted Stewart and Otah and brought Moose back. I'd say he has a right to make that statement to an extent. And since I didn't see it, I have no idea if he actually did say I or if he said we or what context it was written in.

You guys hang on every word to crucify the coaching staff, what they say and what they don't, whether it's from their mouths or hearsay. Funny really...

[pantherdad]

Ask Dan Marino what he thought of the 46 defense.......he pretty much surgically dissected it piece by piece.

[Mr. Scot]

Ask Dan Marino what he thought of the 46 defense.......he pretty much surgically dissected it piece by piece.

The West Coast offense was created in part as a response to the 46. Ryan never effectively countered it.

[Snake]

Worth remembering that it took more than one year to "fix" the offense.

Step 1 was the hiring of Jeff Davidson. Step 2 was acquiring the right players to run what Davidson wanted.

It could be argued that part of the reason it took longer is that the injury to Delhomme held them back a year, but in truth I don't think the "fix" happens without the acquisition of Otah and Stewart.

So on the defensive side, the question becomes can you do both in one offseason? An offseason where the biggest physical talent on that side of the ball is leaving?

I doubt we will run anything radically different then we have been running. I just think we will do it better and may game plan better then in years past. I mean what we did last year can be nasty if you get the players to play it right. In other words I dont think there will be a huge learning curve like we had with our offense and I do think Meeks might just be better at coaching players and game planning. Two things we were lacking in the past.

[rayzor]

4-6 would get us chewed up more by the passing game.

good for a gimmick every once in a blue moon but as a regular feature....

no thanks.

[monstercat]

4-6 would get us chewed up more by the passing game.

good for a gimmick every once in a blue moon but as a regular feature....

no thanks.

Well, the Panthers actually ran a lot of 4-6 in 05, and that was a very good defense even though Jenkins was out all year.

Of course, it will never work like it did for the 85 Bears, but it has been used by more than one team since then.