Jerry Richardson is a bad owner

[TheRealDeal]

I'm not freaking out at all and I've been on record saying he's not cheap, just that the reason you KNOW he wants to win is because he told you is kinda shady.

The problem is that before, no one talked about the Panthers. Now, they only talk about how cheap the Panthers are (whether true or not) so for a young kid looking to sign a big contract and start a career it could play into his consideration. You can't expect him to know the history of the Panthers and all the free agents we have or haven't signed. All he knows is what he's going to be told and right now it's all negative stuff.

Not saying that will happen, but it's not good for us either way.

[mav1234]

I'm not freaking out at all and I've been on record saying he's not cheap, just that the reason you KNOW he wants to win is because he told you is kinda shady.

The problem is that before no one talked about the Panthers. Now, they only talk about how cheap the Panthers are (whether true or not) so for a young kid looking to sign a big contract and start a career it could play into his consideration. You can't expect him to know the history of the Panthers and all the free agents we have or haven't signed. All he knows is what he's going to be told and right now it's all negative stuff.

Not saying that will happen, but it's not good for us either way.

Come on. His father played in the league and is an AD at a major college program. His family has connections. They don't need to know our history to know the media reports this year are bs. I understand where you're going here but I think it'll turn out okay on that front.

You're right, him telling me he wants to win isn't enough, but I think that his words to fans that he wants to win combined with his past actions, as well as the context of why this season went down how it did, should be proof enough he wants to win. We'll see if he backs up his words with actions once the CBA is finished.

[top dawg]

Yeah, that presser didn't do us any favors...not at all.

[mav1234]

Yeah, that presser didn't do us any favors...not at all.

I'll agree that I think they went about that the wrong way.

[Panthers128]

Can't really argue with anything they said unfortunately. But bad owners have put together great teams, just look at the Saints. IIRC their owner was quite adamant about not lowering ticket prices and was criticized after Katrina. Still he put together the best team and possible a back to back super bowl winner.

[top dawg]

Now if Luck doesn't come out, I'll always wonder if it was because of perceived negativity associated with the Panthers. I am going to be optimistic though. Hopefully Richardson will right the ship---and I don't mean in a John Fox, up and down kind of way.

[bleys]

that presser didn't do poo to hurt us except give fools something to talk about... seriously.

[mav1234]

Now if Luck doesn't come out, I'll always wonder if it was because of perceived negativity associated with the Panthers. I am going to be optimistic though. Hopefully Richardson will right the ship---and I don't mean in a John Fox, up and down kind of way.

Honestly, he's going to have a hard time showing anyone anything before Luck has time to declare. We may have a coach before then, but he won't be able to sign anyone or do anything of that nature until the CBA, which won't be done for some time.

[top dawg]

Can't really argue with anything they said unfortunately. But bad owners have put together great teams, just look at the Saints. IIRC their owner was quite adamant about not lowering ticket prices and was criticized after Katrina. Still he put together the best team and possible a back to back super bowl winner.

I think that he ultimately lowered ticket prices, and has now seen the light.

[TheRealDeal]

Come on. His father played in the league and is an AD at a major college program. His family has connections. They don't need to know our history to know the media reports this year are bs. I understand where you're going here but I think it'll turn out okay on that front.

You're right, him telling me he wants to win isn't enough, but I think that his words to fans that he wants to win combined with his past actions, as well as the context of why this season went down how it did, should be proof enough he wants to win. We'll see if he backs up his words with actions once the CBA is finished.

Just because his family has connections doesn't mean the result of those connections is going to be favorable. They could find out that Richardson is only cutting cost to make money and not to get young. They might not like the way he handled some of his players (DWill) when other owners have extended guys even without the CBA. All this plays into a young kid's mind.

I don't know if he comes out but it could also play a part later in his career in terms of extensions and so forth if he does get picked by us this year.

[TheRealDeal]

Honestly, he's going to have a hard time showing anyone anything before Luck has time to declare. We may have a coach before then, but he won't be able to sign anyone or do anything of that nature until the CBA, which won't be done for some time.

He can sign our own guys, he's just choosing not to. Other owners have taken a different approach.

[top dawg]

... They might not like the way he handled some of his players (DWill) when other owners have extended guys even without the CBA...

Which is something else they referred to. Other teams are not necessarily throwing money at key guys, but they are finding a way to get their contracts done.

[bleys]

He can sign our own guys, he's just choosing not to. Other owners have taken a different approach.

other owners haven't been signing 10 players.. you have only seen 2-3 at the most..

we are looking at 6-10 guys getting resigned.. (whatever the number is)

[TheRealDeal]

And he has signed 0.

Edit:

I'm not saying it's good or bad either way, just saying it's something to consider when thinking about his image right now.