To the delusionsal regarding Pep: Sack stats don't lie!

[bleys]

Hey you said it, if you go around just trying to be the ass shower, of course your gonna have some ass in your face.

I don't pin? ping? whatever you were trying to say over peppers, and I am not sure how my post which said nothing about peppers would indicate that but I have several posts on the subject.

Posts which would indicate that I have moved on, a long time ago actually. I don't spend my time whining because Peppers is leaving.

At the same time I know his loss will be huge, but not insurmountable.

At the other same time, he has the right to leave, and you still by your post are torn up over it, so really you haven't moved on.

You keep posting about him ditching us leaving us, and what not.

You should be concerned with the party of Peppers, because that party could potentially equal first round picks for the Panthers party.

Some people won't grasp that what Peppers is doing isn't wrong, and isn't a slight.

That is just the way it is, nothing about loving or BJSB or w/e that gayness yall say is. Just the truth, accept it.

So what's all this going on about? Perhaps you should PM him and talk out y'alls issues instead of bantering about Peppers and pretending that's the issue.

[Fox007]

So what's all this going on about? Perhaps you should PM him and talk out y'alls issues instead of bantering about Peppers and pretending that's the issue.

What are you talking about? Maybe making up issues is your forte, not mine.

By your posts meaning, perhaps you should have PMed me that instead of posting it yes?

[bleys]

What are you talking about? Maybe making up issues is your forte, not mine.

By your posts meaning, perhaps you should have PMed me that instead of posting it yes?

You can be a pain in the ass sometimes.. You just have every angle covered to start an argument huh?

Why would I PM you one simple statement?

By my post meaning, it says instead of going back and forth about who is over Pepper's and who isn't, perhaps you can go back and forth in PM about some issue you 2 seem to have.

So why in meanging, would I PM you? A simple statement (me) -vs- many PMs back in forth. (you)

Which is what you're doing by saying, "perhaps you should have PMed me that instead of posting".. You just keep running in circles dude.. Whatever keeps an argument going.

You're original topic was about Peppers. And then he says, perhaps move on. Then you say, Perhaps you haven't moved on, I've moved on. What in the hell is your argument then? Quit running in circles, lmfao...

I mean, what are you going to say next? "No, maybe you want an argument"..

lol... *sigh*

[Jangler]

[Fox007]

You can be a pain in the ass sometimes.. You just have every angle covered to start an argument huh?

Why would I PM you one simple statement?

By my post meaning, it says instead of going back and forth about who is over Pepper's and who isn't, perhaps you can go back and forth in PM about some issue you 2 seem to have.

So why in meanging, would I PM you? A simple statement (me) -vs- many PMs back in forth. (you)

Which is what you're doing by saying, "perhaps you should have PMed me that instead of posting".. You just keep running in circles dude.. Whatever keeps an argument going.

You're original topic was about Peppers. And then he says, perhaps move on. Then you say, Perhaps you haven't moved on, I've moved on. What in the hell is your argument then? Quit running in circles, lmfao...

I mean, what are you going to say next? "No, maybe you want an argument"..

lol... *sigh*

My original topic wasn't about Peppers but ok.......

It was just a general statement, could it pertain to Pep? Maybe the situation isn't really over now is it?

He said 'either way someone will be looking at someones posterior' and I disputed that. What part of that don't you get?

How could you(rayzor in this instance) tell someone else to move on when your talking to another poster about it just ten minutes prior?

In which they were talking about how a fan would/should handle him leaving.

My responses are pretty much self explanatory, if you can't grasp it, that really isn't my concern or problem.

I do remember you though, you must still be bitter from that one time I called you out for saying some nonsense and it was because you hate the Steelers and were biased on the subject.

Or from your failed poll attempt to prove me something, and you couldn't even understand the subject then.

Also I don't have any problems with rayzor, which you seem to be hinting that I do.

I pretty much agree with what he was saying, except for the part about how to act upon him leaving, or really anyone in that situation.

That little jab wasn't really serious, and I guess you took it worse than him?

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

...Thanks Julius Peppers' agent.............

[rayzor]

i gots no problem with anyone who has a brain. fox007 barely applies.

good thing i am done with it.

move along kids...nothing to see here.

sorry was that bossy, insensitive, or otherwise shallow?

[/pretending i care]

[Skew]

btw...can we please merge this thread and the other pep threads out here with the stickied one?

too many dead horses getting beat.

I'm going to leave it myself. It's a slightly different topic than the average bitch and moan threads about Peppers.

I more concerned that this thread is leading towards personal attacks.

Stay away from that and stay on the subject.

[top dawg]

I know what you mean 007, just as well as they do. They also understand what I said about ass vs class, but let me use less terse imagery:

It's better for two brothers in arms, that have come to a parting of the ways to part with a handshake and well wishes (while looking into the sunlight towards the future with optimism), rather than to give each other their respective butts to kiss. To do anything less is to lessen the legacy of the entire relationship. So, I wouldn't actually say that the way that you part the ways doesn't matter. In reference to football, prospective teams and prospective players take all of this into account. Yes, "big brother is watching." No need to burn bridges of the past, or bridges of the future.

Yes, the past is the past, and the future is the future, but hopefully the entire lot of a man's days means something within the big picture.

[top dawg]

...Thanks Julius Peppers' agent.............

[grateflday]

First seven seasons, White clocked in at 110, Smith 79 and Pep 70.... White and Smith were game changers.... Pep's a good athlete with no motor....

I agree with the point this post is trying to make. For the money Pep is paid, and the kind of player everybody think he is - regardless of the "stats" , on the field is nothing compared to Reggie White, Bruce Smith, and the other great DE that dominated on the field.

Peppers is a good DE not great. He has his moments but thats it. We and the rest of the league has seen what Pep can be. Its time for the Panthers to move on, sign Gross, tag Peppers, trade Peppers for picks and use those plus all the money saved to load up on defense.

[Snake]

Pep will never catch them. He has the tools but not the desire. Trust me on this all the good ones have that fire in them that makes them seem super. I will point out Smith. He makes the hard things look easy and the easy things look simple and then you get some crazy ass play he makes you never even thought of. Sorry Pep has shown some glimpses of this but never just made you say WOW every season. He just dose not have that fire and most dont.

[jimbo82887]

....that IF he had Smitty's heart, it wouldn't even be debatable if he was the best defensive player in the NFL.

.....But "IF" isn't the case- tag him and ship him to the highest bidder.

[carpanfan96]

Sack's actually do lie, I'd rather have a pressure that lead to a pic then a sack. so how many hurries/hits did peppers have. Now compare that to the other top DE in the league.

He wasn't in the top ten in hits as of week 12 but was 5th in hurries as of week 12. As of week 12, counting hits/hurries/sacks he's not in the top 10 overall. I'm looking for updated end of season stats.