Honestly, trade Smith or the 1st round pick for additional ones

[Udogg]

Um, the QB position has been at best pathetic the last 2 years. I think Smitty deserves the benefit of the doubt especially since he basically carried us offensively for 4 out of last 6 years.

[Squirrel]

Um, the QB position has been at best pathetic the last 2 years. I think Smitty deserves the benefit of the doubt especially since he basically carried us offensively for 4 out of last 6 years.

Not when he has been dropping passes when he is wide open. First it was Jakes fault, then Moores now Clausen.

[Khyber53]

Still, I think the last thing we need to do is trade to get a bunch of draft picks. We've had enough rookies running around this year to get that "youth movement thingy" out of our system for a while.

[mick eye]

WBcanrun needs to go back to reading Dick and Jane books to learn some grammar but he has a valid point. There is a contingent that would like to see Smitty traded. If you are a Luck backer, you should have some concerns he will poison young Andrew too. He is not the steady patient WR a rookie needs.

Also with only two picks in the first three rounds Khyber's "youth changey" comment is almost silly as the originator (Palin). Look we have a ton of expiring contracts and holes in the roster to fill and going with young talented over OLD and talented is a no brainer.

Sign and trade Dwill for a pick between a late 2nd or mid 3rd.

Trade Smith for a third and a 2012 7th rounder.

Lots of variables after that. If Luck does not declare we go AJ Green to replace Smith. Or Peterson to replace Marshall. But if Luck declares we pick him unless his coach also leaves and goes to say San Francisco. Then we get on the horn with San Fran and ask for at least there 1st, the 2nd and a 2012 1st. Throw in Isaac Sopoaga and Alex Smith (sign and trade) and it would have to be considered.

Alex Smith has actually done pretty well in the NFL and if it were not for the stigma and pressure of being selected number 1 he would not be considered a bust. He is a serviceable NFL qb who could give Pickles time to develop and MENTOR him.

With the San Fran picks we take Prince Amukamura, Micheal Floyd, and have two first round picks in 2012. Use the Dwill and Smitty picks for trenches help looking at DT's and OG's.

[thefuzz]

If we trade out of the 1st and Luck is there, I am not really sure how I will handle it.

Like I said earlier, maybe we can trade back and pick up Ingram and another Linebacker in the 1st with the extra pick. Running backs and Linebackers in the first lead to tons of 8-8 seasons....

[Lumps]

Hardy

Gettis

Fourth Round

Sixth Round

If we can get a 3rd or 4th and 5th for Smitty, do it.

[mick eye]

If we trade out of the 1st and Luck is there, I am not really sure how I will handle it.

Like I said earlier, maybe we can trade back and pick up Ingram and another Linebacker in the 1st with the extra pick. Running backs and Linebackers in the first lead to tons of 8-8 seasons....

Har de har. Your funny. For those expecting a miracle season with a sophomore QB your setting yourself up for a disappointment.

Recent rookie QB's and how they have done.

Freeman was 3-7 his rookie year. Bradford went 7-9 and was praised for it. Stafford went 2-7 and has NOT contributed this year to their revival what a number 1 pick should. Sanchez went 9-7 but was carried by the team to that record. Matt Ryan and Flacco are success stories admittedly. But the flipside is Jemarcus Russell, Brady Quinn,and Matt Leinart.

I suggested bringing in a young veteran QB, and drafting line help and replacing Marshall. That is not drafting linebackers and Runningbacks two positions we DONT need help at. I will guarantee even if we stay in place with Luck we will address the issues i mentioned and likely NOT as well as we could with my proposal.

[mountainpantherfan]

If Luck doesn't declare then trading the #1 pick should be the option. The only problem is that who do teams trade up for? Newton? Ingram? Mallet? Bowers? I'm not sure if any team will be willing to trade up for any player not named Luck. However, that all can change will one player making a push during the combine and one team falling in love with them. The good news is that with what looks to be so many changes at the head coaching position the likelyhood of a coach wanting player "x" to lay the foundation of his new team.

Now, if Luck does declare then you draft him 1st overall unless there is a offer made that can't be turned down. And I really doubt that happens considering the last two times that type of deal was done it completely blown up in the face of the organizations. Nevertheless, if a team is willing to give up everything and the kitchen sink for Luck, history tells you the Panthers would be on the better end of that deal.

As for Smith. I feel he needs to go and what we could get for him really doesn't matter. But I don't see it happening. It's a two-way street. Smith will not leave the Panthers and the Panthers won't send him away. I really hope I'm wrong about this because I feel that for the team to truely start over with a new coach and a new franshise QB Smith will only get in the way of progress. I hate saying that because I don't want to see Smitty gone.

[WhiteBoysCanRun22]

WBcanrun needs to go back to reading Dick and Jane books to learn some grammar but he has a valid point. There is a contingent that would like to see Smitty traded. If you are a Luck backer, you should have some concerns he will poison young Andrew too. He is not the steady patient WR a rookie needs.

Also with only two picks in the first three rounds Khyber's "youth changey" comment is almost silly as the originator (Palin). Look we have a ton of expiring contracts and holes in the roster to fill and going with young talented over OLD and talented is a no brainer.

Sign and trade Dwill for a pick between a late 2nd or mid 3rd.

Trade Smith for a third and a 2012 7th rounder.

Lots of variables after that. If Luck does not declare we go AJ Green to replace Smith. Or Peterson to replace Marshall. But if Luck declares we pick him unless his coach also leaves and goes to say San Francisco. Then we get on the horn with San Fran and ask for at least there 1st, the 2nd and a 2012 1st. Throw in Isaac Sopoaga and Alex Smith (sign and trade) and it would have to be considered.

Alex Smith has actually done pretty well in the NFL and if it were not for the stigma and pressure of being selected number 1 he would not be considered a bust. He is a serviceable NFL qb who could give Pickles time to develop and MENTOR him.

With the San Fran picks we take Prince Amukamura, Micheal Floyd, and have two first round picks in 2012. Use the Dwill and Smitty picks for trenches help looking at DT's and OG's.

Yes, my grammar can occasionally suck but oh well. I like your thoughts in trading with SF for their 1st & 2nd round pick. I hardly ever believe in rookie QBs & probably never will so I say forget Luck. Draft a DT & maybe another WR b/c i really don't believe Smith will be here next season

[chef17]

How exactly can Smith "poison" Luck? Smith gets pissed when QBs don't get him the ball, as the best WR we can I see his point. If Luck is as good as everyone thinks he is, Luck will have no problem getting him the ball. Where is the "poison" in that?

[DR_DIGH]

This is by far the dumbest thread ever created. You don't trade the number one pick with the season we just had when you have it secured, should he declare, for a position we desperately need. You don't build your team around any other position besides QB. This is our opportunity to build this franchise to the competetive level it should be. And you want to trade it away?