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Do you trust hurney

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bigcatdaddy Newbie

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Let's not forget Hurney did put together teams that went to 2 NFC title games and 1 Super bowl. Has he made some bad moves? Of course but he has made some great moves as well. It would be hard to find a team that has done better with later round picks then the Panthers, maybe only the Pats are better. I am not a fan of the Armanti pick but it is too early to label him as a bust and maybe the new coach will use him better. Anyone who thinks that if Luck comes out and we would not draft him or trade the pick is insane, Hurney knows how good the kid is and would take him in a heart beat. If Luck doesn't come out I have no problem with Hurney trading down and getting more picks if possible, but if Luck is there he will take him.

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rayzor Grand Master

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i don't know if the inability to pick a QB was him or fox...or both.

i know fox just doesn't like rookies/young guys all that much. i think i remember him saying that he would rather have someone else develop the talent for him.

hurney has his moments...and then he has his moments.

i just don't know what to expect. usually i've been pretty cool with seeing what he's going to do and thought that the gambler/wheeling and dealing part of him that shows up on draft day was pretty entertaining, but there have been some questionable moves lately that have me a bit anxious.

he's a wild card. totally unpredictable and after this year, i don't want unpredictable. he and the FO needs to be quick and decisive this year.

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Matthias Proficient

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I have a quick question. I've been reading some stuff on Luck and comments from ordinary people about what the Panthers should do with the first pick. From among all the talk, a couple of people mentioned Carolina may have over 70 million dollars of free cap space. Is that an accurate estimate?

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Baschski Newbie

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Inability to find a great QB....not happy

Inability to manage the cap, i.e. Jake and Pep....pretty alarming.

2 first round RB's in 3 years....really bad decisions.

Brown and Edwards picks.....horrible GM choices.

No, I don't trust him at all.

How many great QB's are there in the NFL? Five? It's not like the man hasn't been trying.

Jakes contract extension and letting Pep go were both favorable decisions for our cap. I think the decision to cut Jake came very suddenly from the top and obviously wasn't made with his extension in mind.

Those 2 first round RB's have given us one of the best running games in the league so what the hell is bad about that?

If you're already passing judgment on Edwards you're ignorant. The Brown pick wasn't bad at all. We needed a pass rushing DE badly, so he got one. If you want to take the hindsight view and say that it was bad because Brown isn't a Pro Bowler, then that's also ignorant. And please don't forget that we also got Mike Goodson in that trade. Brown and Goodson for a first isn't bad.

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People here are way too hard on Hurney.

He's done very well in the 1st round and later rounds.

Additionally, we have no way of knowing if Hurney ACTUALLY tried to trade this years 1st for Clausen.

The Rams didn't take the deal, remember?

It's hard to imagine them turning down a 1st rounder for the 33rd pick. (when all projections had us as a bad team)

Even if we did manage to trade this year's 1st though, it would've been hard to blame Hurney.

We needed a QB, the coaching staff knew we had to make a move for one, and they knew Matt wasn't the guy. They had seen him in practice every day, which matters a whole heck of a lot more than 6 meaningless games.

Even if some people here don't want to accept it, there is a reason the FO avoided putting Matt on the field for as long as possible, and we saw why this season. Moore simply isn't a good QB, and they knew it. So they tried to get their guy, and fortunately, we held onto our pick. But you can't blame the FO for making a move that could've yielded big results over, well, what we got from Moore.

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Baschski Newbie

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Yeah, people evaluating Hurney's draft day moves based on hind sight is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Yes, Clausen isn't good. But at the time of the draft he was heralded as the most pro-ready QB by basically every draft pundit and he was a steal where we drafted him. If he had turned out to be the QB he was expected to be, everyone would be slobbering Hurney's knob for the pick, not criticizing it. Hurney is not Nostrafrickindamus.

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