The Panthers are on the clock...

[Squirrel]

We're not an expansion team anymore, and we didn't trade the second overall in 2002.

If Luck comes out, he's the pick. Other possibilities only apply if he doesn't.

Willing to bet that. I can see us trading down to a top 5 pick.

[Dpantherman]

If Luck is there, I can't see it. If Luck isn't there, Im 99.9% sure it happens.

[Squirrel]

If Luck is there, I can't see it. If Luck isn't there, Im 99.9% sure it happens.

I have been more right than any other poster on the board over the past year. Doubt me if you dare.

[Mr. Scot]

I do

I will say that if Luck does come out, I expect an offseason full of tortured Panther fans diagramming Hurney's sentences, analyzing the tense and origin of every single word and generally trying anything they can think of trying to get a clue as to "what he meant by that" :sosp:

[Dpantherman]

How many of your life's savings worth of nuts are you willing to bet on it?

[pantherj]

I have been more right than any other poster on the board over the past year. Doubt me if you dare.

Why do you think we'll pass on Luck?

[Spaceballs83]

We pass on a future Franchise QB, for just some extra picks....I'm done with this team.

[MHS831]

We need to remember the cap room. Re-sign DeAngelo, Johnson, Kalil, and a few role players. Add a DT and an OLmen.

Now, how many picks do we need? Our problem is not quality depth at many positions. On D, we need a DT and a CB. On offense, a QB and maybe some OL depth.

[Squirrel]

Why do you think we'll pass on Luck?

3 reasons.

Money

More picks

QB draft percentage sure Luck might be the next Peyton Manning or he might be the next Ryan Leaf. Think Hurney will play it safe and trade down to pick up A.J. Green or Nick Fairley. Depends on what QB's are available in Free Agency I also expect Palmer to be cut this offseason and we will pick him up. So we will have our qb along with a nice addition to either the Defensive line or Wide receiver corp.

[MHS831]

Willing to bet that. I can see us trading down to a top 5 pick.

We could get a second rounder and a first rounder next year to trade down to the fifth spot.

So, it comes to this: Andrew Luck vs. Cam Newton, a quality, second tier DT, and a first rounder next year.

Luck would garner this kind of price.

Would I do it? No.

Luck has the best chance to be great. A great QB is worth three great players at other positions. Newton is going to be good, but maybe not. Luck has few questioning.

[Mr. Scot]

3 reasons.

Money

More picks

QB draft percentage sure Luck might be the next Peyton Manning or he might be the next Ryan Leaf. Think Hurney will play it safe and trade down to pick up A.J. Green or Nick Fairley. Depends on what QB's are available in Free Agency I also expect Palmer to be cut this offseason and we will pick him up. So we will have our qb along with a nice addition to either the Defensive line or Wide receiver corp.

Reason 4: You like to yank people's chains :biggrin:

[Squirrel]

Reason 4: You like to yank people's chains :biggrin:

Nope I am dead serious. No yanking of peoples chains.

[grateflday]

3 reasons.

Money

More picks

QB draft percentage sure Luck might be the next Peyton Manning or he might be the next Ryan Leaf. Think Hurney will play it safe and trade down to pick up A.J. Green or Nick Fairley. Depends on what QB's are available in Free Agency I also expect Palmer to be cut this offseason and we will pick him up. So we will have our qb along with a nice addition to either the Defensive line or Wide receiver corp.

First... money is not an issue with this franchise. Enough of what transpired this offseason to all of the sudden declare the Panthers/JR is cheap.

Second, passing on Luck and should he become the next Peyton Manning would set this franchise back many more years than any other scenario. Even compared to the possibility he does become a bust.

[Squirrel]

We could get a second rounder and a first rounder next year to trade down to the fifth spot.

So, it comes to this: Andrew Luck vs. Cam Newton, a quality, second tier DT, and a first rounder next year.

Luck would garner this kind of price.

Would I do it? No.

Luck has the best chance to be great. A great QB is worth three great players at other positions. Newton is going to be good, but maybe not. Luck has few questioning.

Neither we wont draft a QB.