Universal whine about Clausen thread

[Mvp2014]

Agreed its more the fact that he stared him all the way down right from the snap when it was a 3 WR set.

Its like Jake all over again

[pantherfan81]

You know a QB sucks when he can't fill Delhomme and Matt Moore's shoes.

:rofl:

[MWCarolina]

Really!!! Before Fox became HC and before Hurney became GM. The Panthers went got alot of big names in the past. JR will reopen the bank once the new CBA is in place. I trust he will.

that was the past, this is the present and in the present, he didnt trade for Boldin, didnt sign Houshmandezdeh and didnt look for a pass rusher or offensive lineman. he CAN change, but he's going to have to prove it.

[communist]

what about starting in the trenches...if you wanna have a shot on some divisional wins, you will have to rush brees, freeman and ryan effectively...but u dont neither have a good pass-rush nor a good DB.

try to trade down, pick up bowers and get a 2nd-rounder additionally...i dont think that u can pick up good enough FAs for your d-line to avoid the bowers-trade.

[MWCarolina]

Clausen will be here next season, I'll continue to guarantee it. As a backup or emergency QB.

disagree, he's going to get released, WHY keep him????? you have Pike and Edwards and St. Pierre??? no reason to keep him, he's gone.

[monstercat]

Honestly have you even watched an entire Auburn game this year?

Vince Young did the same thing in college though, and so far, he hasn't even finished an NFL season as a starter. Cam may or may not end up being better than Vince, but he doesn't really come from an offense that translates well to the NFL at all. I would much much rather have Luck, who already knows how to run an NFL offense.

[MWCarolina]

Agreed its more the fact that he stared him all the way down right from the snap when it was a 3 WR set.

that's a rookie mistake that almost all rookies will make, so that doesnt bother me, what bothers me is that he lacks confidence in the team and coaches and the only way to fix that, is to let him go.

[communist]

disagree, he's going to get released, WHY keep him????? you have Pike and Edwards and St. Pierre??? no reason to keep him, he's gone.

i dont understand your argument at all...u wanna keep pike, a low-round pick and release a 2nd-rounder??? that's a little bit weird, isnt it?

Vince Young did the same thing in college though, and so far, he hasn't even finished an NFL season as a starter. Cam may or may not end up being better than Vince, but he doesn't really come from an offense that translates well to the NFL at all. I would much much rather have Luck, who already knows how to run an NFL offense.

just a second...there is a person out there who really thinks about drafting newton over luck...a first year starter with some character questions out of a non-pro-style-offense over a pro-style guy who is athletic enough and is considered as the best qb-prospect since p. manning? not bad...

[monstercat]

Pike is too damn fragile and he hasn't proven anything either. I would rather keep Jimmy as a back up, since they have already invested a 2nd round pick on him. Heck, it's not like he will never get any better.

[chef17]

that's a rookie mistake that almost all rookies will make, so that doesnt bother me, what bothers me is that he lacks confidence in the team and coaches and the only way to fix that, is to let him go.

Staring down a tight end in a 3 WR is a bad QB mistake, not a rookie mistake. A rookie mistake would be staring down your #1 WR.

[Panthercougar68]

what about starting in the trenches...if you wanna have a shot on some divisional wins, you will have to rush brees, freeman and ryan effectively...but u dont neither have a good pass-rush nor a good DB.

try to trade down, pick up bowers and get a 2nd-rounder additionally...i dont think that u can pick up good enough FAs for your d-line to avoid the bowers-trade.

Good plan call Hurney and tell him, his number is 704-aftertonightsgamewearenolongertradingoutandmissingluckifhesthere. We have a rookie DE thats showing promise and one that has 11.5 sacks with someone to collapse the middle where most of the problem has been we'll be better with the pass rush.

[Udogg]

Vince Young did the same thing in college though, and so far, he hasn't even finished an NFL season as a starter. Cam may or may not end up being better than Vince, but he doesn't really come from an offense that translates well to the NFL at all. I would much much rather have Luck, who already knows how to run an NFL offense.

Valid points. I would also take Luck before Newton. However as a consolation and looking at our situation, I can see how Newton could work out. As long as the coach isn't inflexible and willing to adapt the offense to the players strength. Also I don't think people should discount Newton, because he is similar to Vince Young. Vince Young's problem is mainly his inability to handle criticism. Just because players have similar athletic qualities doesn't mean they have the same mental ones.

[ThaJackal]

It's Ok everyone, Luck will be here soon enough and our problems WILL be solved.

Andrew Luck is my Shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:

He leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul:

He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name' sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,

I will fear no evil: For Andrew Luck will be with me;

Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;

Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life,

and we will dwell in the winning column forever.

[Pantherman]

that was the past, this is the present and in the present, he didnt trade for Boldin, didnt sign Houshmandezdeh and didnt look for a pass rusher or offensive lineman. he CAN change, but he's going to have to prove it.

Have you not been reading around and on the forums. The main reason JR went cheap this year was to clear out alot of these big contracts like Jake Delhomme and never resigned alot of the vets and let a few go. JR was preparing for a possible lockout this coming offseason. But if a new CBA is reached and the lockout does not happen. The Panthers will have the most money of all the teams in the league to work with. Therefore he will allow the new GM go out and sign some nice bigtime FAs to help this out. JR ain't cheap. He was just been safe. Trust me when I say Jr will open the bank once a new CBA deal is done.:yesnod: