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Larry Brown has stepped down as the coach of the Bobcats....

Zaximus

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And people laughed when I had said LB was the biggest problem on this team. Also the worst thing about it, is that MJ is still willing to pay the man the remainder of his salary.

Holy fuging poo, man.

Larry Brown wasn't the problem with this team. He's one of the greatest coaches in NBA history for turning around a franchise, but his hands were tied by ineptitude in the front office this year and it took his heart out of it. He's a wandering act, Larry Brown. He'll come in, make your team a playoff team, and then blow out of town. Because he can never get a front office partner that believes in building a team the way he wants it.

The man worked miracles getting a squad like this one to the playoffs last season and every educated fan knows we had no business being there. They took Felton from Brown and left him with the players that were malcontent and didn't improve the team at all.

The big problem on this team is that Brown lost them, because we have a faction in the locker room that thinks they're bigger and more important than the coaching staff headed by Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson. They never gave Augustin a chance. They scoffed at every attempt we made to get better. Their frustration level caused them to play soft and uninspired basketball.... which Brown is allergic to. But what option did he have? He couldn't bench those two guys because those two guys are all we have thanks to an offseason filled with failed attempts to pick up real players or keep our own.

Everybody here underrated Raymond Felton's loss and what it meant. He's playing 18.4 PPG and 9.0 APG and 1.93 SPG for the Knicks. Larry saw it coming but couldn't do anything about it.

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Larry Brown wasn't the problem with this team. He's one of the greatest coaches in NBA history for turning around a franchise, but his hands were tied by ineptitude in the front office this year and it took his heart out of it. He's a wandering act, Larry Brown. He'll come in, make your team a playoff team, and then blow out of town. Because he can never get a front office partner that believes in building a team the way he wants it.

The man worked miracles getting a squad like this one to the playoffs last season and every educated fan knows we had no business being there. They took Felton from Brown and left him with the players that were malcontent and didn't improve the team at all.

The big problem on this team is that Brown lost them, because we have a faction in the locker room that thinks they're bigger and more important than the coaching staff headed by Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson. They never gave Augustin a chance. They scoffed at every attempt we made to get better. Their frustration level caused them to play soft and uninspired basketball.... which Brown is allergic to. But what option did he have? He couldn't bench those two guys because those two guys are all we have thanks to an offseason filled with failed attempts to pick up real players or keep our own.

Everybody here underrated Raymond Felton's loss and what it meant. He's playing 18.4 PPG and 9.0 APG and 1.93 SPG for the Knicks. Larry saw it coming but couldn't do anything about it.

See, I disagree with this and I am a UNC/Bobcats fan. Back in the days Larry Brown was a good coach when the NBA actually cared about the game of basketball. Today the only important aspect in the game is that of scoring the basketball. Larry Brown, however is a preacher of defense, defense, defense. Unfortunatley, it doesn't really matter how good your defense is in the NBA, someone will always be able to score on you. Larry Brown would be a fantastic coach in the NCAA because the NCAA still teaches fundamental basketball. However, the only way to succeed in the NBA is to find an offensive mined coach and team. You can have a great defense but if you are ranked 29th in the league in scoring than your defense means nothing.

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Larry Brown wasn't the problem with this team. He's one of the greatest coaches in NBA history for turning around a franchise, but his hands were tied by ineptitude in the front office this year and it took his heart out of it.

I fully agree on this point. Although in MJ's defense, Larry had the full right to not return to this team. Especially since up to that point, he had lost his beloved point guard, 1/3 of the roster that he direct input on. and his only 'legitimate' Center on this team.

Larry returned because he knew he had MJ by the balls.

Because he can never get a front office partner that believes in building a team the way he wants it.

What do you call the roster last year? He practically threw Emeka under the bus, drafted DJ when he knew full and well that DJ wasn't his prototypical guard, brought in Diaw and Raja Bell, etc.

Michael practically gave Larry the keys to the franchise. It was Larry's failure with bringing in useless players; that caused Michael to take away his privileges.

Which Larry didn't like, so he quit on the team. Just like New york.

The man worked miracles getting a squad like this one to the playoffs last season and every educated fan knows we had no business being there. They took Felton from Brown and left him with the players that were malcontent and didn't improve the team at all.

Again, fully agreed. Larry worked a miracle last year, but losing Felton didn't destroy this team.

Attitude reflects leadership, and Larry has a poor attitude.

The big problem on this team is that Brown lost them, because we have a faction in the locker room that thinks they're bigger and more important than the coaching staff headed by Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson. They never gave Augustin a chance. They scoffed at every attempt we made to get better. Their frustration level caused them to play soft and uninspired basketball.... which Brown is allergic to. But what option did he have? He couldn't bench those two guys because those two guys are all we have thanks to an offseason filled with failed attempts to pick up real players or keep our own.

Fully agreed. MJ and the entire staff failed horribly this offseason.

Everybody here underrated Raymond Felton's loss and what it meant. He's playing 18.4 PPG and 9.0 APG and 1.93 SPG for the Knicks. Larry saw it coming but couldn't do anything about it.

You're also choosing to overlook that Felton is playing with an All-Star caliber front court and an overall very talented team.

And if you've watched several Knicks games (even when they played us) Felton's game has hardly changed. He's just playing in a better situation now compared to when he was here.

Chandler's stats have increased since he's been in Dallas, I don't hear the fans complaining that he's gone.

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Although the team quit on him, no one should be pointing fingers at management for Brown "quitting". If a player "quits" midway thru the season people trash him and throw him under the bus, just because Brown is not a player and is a "coach" doesnt excuse what he did. And this isnt the first time he's done this, and probably wont be the last. I enjoyed Coach Brown's tenure here and he made us a better team last year, but him not finishing what he starts is on him. If he couldnt get guys to buy in this year, after they did last year, thats on him.

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Although the team quit on him, no one should be pointing fingers at management for Brown "quitting". If a player "quits" midway thru the season people trash him and throw him under the bus, just because Brown is not a player and is a "coach" doesnt excuse what he did. And this isnt the first time he's done this, and probably wont be the last. I enjoyed Coach Brown's tenure here and he made us a better team last year, but him not finishing what he starts is on him. If he couldnt get guys to buy in this year, after they did last year, thats on him.

He didn't quit, he was fired. If he had quit Phil Ford, Herb Brown, or Dave Hanners would be the coach.

Now if you were talking about quiting in a figurative speach. I would once again say he did not quit. When players make as much money as they do in the NBA, they don't have to play well. Most players don't have a guarantee in their contract that says they get more for winning. Of course making the playoffs increases revenue and sales, however the team as a whole quit on the city and Michael Jordan is doing his best to fix this. However, doing it in the middle of the season will be tough because it could go either way and if it gets worse (God forbid), the Bobcats may be in one heap of trouble and debt.

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I fully agree on this point. Although in MJ's defense, Larry had the full right to not return to this team. Especially since up to that point, he had lost his beloved point guard, 1/3 of the roster that he direct input on. and his only 'legitimate' Center on this team.

Larry returned because he knew he had MJ by the balls.

Here's my issue with this - Larry comes in and wants a PG, so we draft DJ instead of a much-needed center in Lopez. And then Larry wanted badly to retain Raymond?

Larry loves the point guards, but despite Felton's sometimes careless or reckless play, the guy has heart and a strong passion for the game, and those are intangibles you can't coach. Instead of building around Felton, he was squeezed out by the emergence of DJ. And good for him that he got a great deal and is in a better situation now.

I have nothing against Augustin, but I don't think we'll see him as a leader the way a PG should lead in the NBA.

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Maybe the team quit on him a bit, but you know what, I KNOW it was LB's gameplan as to why we NEVER defended the 3. He hates the 3 in the NBA, and I guess decided not to defend it? Wonder how many games we lost because of 3's, I bet it's a ton. It was time to move on. LB never sticks around anyway, anywhere, it was bound to happen.

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