PSL Trouble Guys? What's up?

[BigBlackCat_Fan]

Can't Wait Till I Get Mine.

5 Moore Years Till The Trailer Payed Off......WOOT

[carolinarolls]

this is a never-ending debate ....

agreed.

I do appreciate your points.

[Section 505]

because it is the LEAGUE, not the team, that establishes the price of playoff tickets, for all teams involved.

That may be, but the prices are not the same for every team's playoff games. Atlanta had their playoff ticket prices posted on their website and they all cost LESS than the comparable seat in the Panthers Stadium.

So maybe the league sets the price based on that team's regular season pricing, or something. I surely don't know.

[guyinchesapeake]

"That may be, but the prices are not the same for every team's playoff games. Atlanta had their playoff ticket prices posted on their website and they all cost LESS than the comparable seat in the Panthers Stadium.

So maybe the league sets the price based on that team's regular season pricing, or something. I surely don't know. "

I absolutely do not know all of the criteria that the league establishes for setting the prices. Maybe the league establishes it as a percentage above the regular ticket prices, but again, that's a 'maybe', I don't know for sure.

That said, I have heard that it is a league policy that the prices for pre-season games be the same as regular, but I can't find any info online confirming that. Maybe some other poster can confirm or deny that.

[Panthers_Lover]

"That may be, but the prices are not the same for every team's playoff games. Atlanta had their playoff ticket prices posted on their website and they all cost LESS than the comparable seat in the Panthers Stadium.

So maybe the league sets the price based on that team's regular season pricing, or something. I surely don't know. "

I absolutely do not know all of the criteria that the league establishes for setting the prices. Maybe the league establishes it as a percentage above the regular ticket prices, but again, that's a 'maybe', I don't know for sure.

That said, I have heard that it is a league policy that the prices for pre-season games be the same as regular, but I can't find any info online confirming that. Maybe some other poster can confirm or deny that.

Regarding playoff ticket prices:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80c6eeb8&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Knowing the tough economic times the country is in, the NFL is doing its fans a favor.

The average ticket price for NFL playoff games this year will be approximately 10 percent lower than last year, the NFL confirmed today, citing the economic challenges facing fans as the reason for the reduction.

The specific league-wide average playoff ticket price cannot be determined until the home playoff sites are decided in the weeks leading up to Super Bowl XLIII.

Commissioner Roger Goodell recently sent ticket pricing guidelines to all playoff contending clubs, which then set their own individual prices.

As part of those guidelines, the NFL also authorized for the first time a lower price for the wild-card games than for divisional playoff games the following weekend. Those two rounds traditionally have been priced the same.

"We want to be responsive to the economic challenges facing our fans," an NFL spokesman said.

Clubs will announce their specific playoff ticket prices and distribution plans in the near future. Prices differ from market to market depending on the price of their tickets for the season.

Average price of playoff tickets last year (wild card, divisional, conference championships) was $121.

[Go To Girl]

The value of my PSL has increased 4-fold since I bought it. It's been a great investment. If I ever decide to sell them, i should make quite a bit off of them. However, they are the only possession that I own that is addressed in our wills. As it stands right now, my daughter gets them. My son does not like football, so far she does. If that changes, we'll see. We'[ve eve gone so far as to set up how the tickets will be paid for if we die before she is old enough to pay for the tickets herself. We did that knowing full well what the contract is and knowing that those tickets have to be paid for even if she ends up being only 12 at the time (not that I plan on dying anytime soon).

[raleigh-panther]

"Q. Are the prices for post season tix posted at the beginning of the year?

Q. Does the contract limit the graduation of prices over the years for the games?"

To the first question: No, and they will never be, because it is the LEAGUE, not the team, that establishes the price of playoff tickets, for all teams involved.

As for the second question, 'graduation' of prices is not addressed for ANY tickets, regular or post season. That may have more to do with how much they spend on free agency as anything else, and possibly, the success of the team in the prior year.

Your statement is NOT correct. When a PSL holder agrees the PSL for xx number of years, there is a guarantee on price increase limits.

[Go To Girl]

The only sections that have the number of years clause are the clubs (don't know about the boxes). I'm an original owner so unless they've changed the contracts, it's not addressed uppers or lowers.

[Skew]

The only sections that have the number of years clause are the clubs (don't know about the boxes). I'm an original owner so unless they've changed the contracts, it's not addressed uppers or lowers.

I believe you are correct.

[raleigh-panther]

Yes, I sit in club level, so, I can only speak to club level as I've read the T&Cs of the contract. In short, based on the number of years I signed for, and then renewed, I was alotted x years at a price increase not to exceed XX% of the ticket price...one of the reasons I did the lifetime option...otherwise, I would not have bothered to sign-up that long. Individual seat prices are bad enough at the club level, I guess this was an encouragement to keep them and decrease turn-over.

Those prices are what makes an uninspired Panthers team very hard to tolerate a la the Cardinals game.

As someone said however, there is no guarantee on performance of the team, just that I have a seat to see the performance.

[FelineFANatic]

Funny, it's the non PSL owners complaining, not the PSL owners.

LOL :smilielol5:

[Snake]

I own a PSL. If I choose to sell that PSL I can. If I choose to abandon the PSL I can. I own it, and all I have to do to keep it is honor the terms I agreed to when I purchased it.

Try not paying your property taxes for a few years and enjoy the ride.

No, it's not a problem. I make a ton more now than I did when I bought them, and I can afford the tickets easier than I could in the last recession. There are other people who are hurting now and maybe need to sell because they can no longer afford them. It doesn't matter the economy, there will always be those who can buy and those who can't, and those groups change over time.

PSLs are the reason we got a unanimous vote for a football team. They made it possible to get the Panthers in the first place. They're just like season tickets, but you have to pay an up-front cost to have the privilege of getting them. If you're irresponsible, then you can forfeit them and lose the money you invested. If you're not, and you can't afford them, you can sell the PSLs to recoup your original investment (with interest!--they've certainly outperformed many stocks recently).

They're a great idea, they're actually a decent investment, and I'm looking forward to buying two more at some point.

By the way, do you actually own PSLs or are you just full of sh*t?

#1 You can sell anything you buy that's the great thing about free market.

#2 I never said stop paying why is everyone saying that yall missed my point

big time.

#3 That's great for you but some people are not so lucky. With PSLs it means noting that you have payed 13 years without a hiccup but now you are forced to sell or lose your money. Really kinda a shitty deal for people who have lost there jobs and we are just talking playoff tickets too not regular season. You can be smug all you want but just cause you can pay for it and others cant dose make those other people bad with money it just means its a bad time.

#4 PSLs are a good thing for the people who can afford them but for the people who cant it kinda a raw deal. They have there good side and there bad one. You can make excuses all you want but that's the bottom line.

[Snake]

Funny, it's the non PSL owners complaining, not the PSL owners.

Prob cause those people would like to have the right to season tickets but cant afford PSLs. Just saying.....

[Go To Girl]

The people who can't afford them have no business having them - as others have said, it's a luxury item so priorities must be put in order. There are some on here also who said they could not afford their tickets - they bought them anyway and then sold them - I'll bet most broke even or did much better than that.