PSL Trouble Guys? What's up?

[mountainpantherfan]

I'm not a PSL owner. I feel that the Panthers are contracually and morally right in how they are handling this. The only thing I would say could have been handled differently was that considering the economy the Panthers could have done something to allow the PSL owners to not have to pay for the tickets ie per the PSL owner's request their tickets were included in the single game ticket sells. If they didn't sell, then the PSL owner would have had to pay for them. I don't that would have happened though. Not to mention it would have been a way to keep the so many tickets from hitting the open market with big markups. In sense it would have helped fans in two ways.

But hindsight is 20/20. Maybe with the way the econemy is, something like that could be done for next season.

[CosmoGirl]

wow that is bs. I understand they want people to support the team but to revoke their PSLs or force them to spend $228, when they couldnt even afford the playoff tix is down right dirty. I have PSLs and bought my tix to the playoffs but it def was a stretch to afford, and I probley wouldnt of been able to afford the even more expensive NFC Championship tix. And to think if we beat Arizona I would have lost my PSLs really pisses me off.

Now I can't speak for all our fans but times are tough, but that dosen't make me any less of a fan. I would still support the team and allocate a budget to afford the yearly season ticket cost even with their increase, but if I can't afford another $250 or more around Christmas time, then the team is telling me they don't want my support anymore.

Someone who is lossing their PSLs because of this should call one of those news shows. Bad press will always make someone do the right thing.

It was ONE person who had the $228 bill. Those are the lower level endzone tickets, if he had two (he may have had 4 upper endzones). ALL they had to pay was the price that the one game tickets cost. If they do not pay, they lose their PSLs.

What's sad is they could've offered them for sale contingent on the playoff game and made at least 3x their money on them (even one guy on here offered to pay face for them to prevent losing the PSLs if people couldn't afford them).

I do not like paying for pre-season games but I have to. I do not like that season ticket invoices are due right at April 15th, but am I going to lose the $X that I paid for my PSLs? Nope.

[CosmoGirl]

If you can't afford PSLs, then sell them. They're a luxury item and should be treated as such. The contract clearly states that if you own a PSL, you're obligated to purchase the tickets, including playoff tickets. It's not gall, it's a contract.

As for the guy who had no luck selling his, I call bullshit. Prior to the game there were lots of opportunities to unload them, up to and including scalpers outside the stadium. He had no luck because he didn't try, that's all. The media wants to stir up some crap, that's all.

And the "right thing" in this case is clearly to honor the contract you agreed to.

True dat.

The Panthers offered the pay-as-we-play option for the first time. Sign up for it. Then in the three days between the Saints game and the day after they sold out to the public (which public sale day and charge your card day were the same) is when they were going for the crazy money. So sell them the day before they are due to the Panthers. And even if you were a day or so late, you're fine.

[CosmoGirl]

You probably don't see anything wrong with it because none of you have PSL's

I have PSLs. I am losing my job in four weeks but I still paid for them. I wouldn't dream of not paying. Especially if you offered them for sell at or near face, then they'd have been gone in an instant.

[CosmoGirl]

Wow. Just wow.

Maybe the Panthers could give people an extension to be able to pay the "fine" for not being able to afford the playoff tickets. After all, the economy has improved so much since the beginning of the month.

All that the "fine" is is the price of the playoff tickets. If you had two seats at $127 each, then the fine would be $254. You are paying what you owe.

One thing is that they did not cancel the barcode for tickets that were not paid upfront, say someone had a credit card issue for various reasons on the first attempt was declined or not accepted. You could not forward your tickets or list them on ticket exchange, however, the original tickets were still good. So people could have gone to the game or sold the real tickets to someone but not paid.

Personally, I think they are being understanding to let people pay almost a month after the playoff game. They should charge a late fee on top of the ticket price IMO. Nowhere else do they not charge late fees.

[CosmoGirl]

I think the fee has been used before - they honestly don't want to take people's PSLs - but they also don't want to let people just decide they can break their contract without consequences. I agree with what they're doing.

It isn't even a "fee". They just want the money for the playoff game ticket invoice. Pay what you owe.

[CosmoGirl]

Socialism NOW!

I agree with natty. You have to factor in the fact that you might have to buy 1-2 playoff game tickets each year. I wish I could afford to get a PSL, sounds like I might have an opportunity to get a good set.

Come on NUMBERS!!!!

Only way you'd get a good deal is to adverstise in the papers or websites saying that you're interested in buying PSLs rather than them lose their money. The Panthers will revoke them and sell them for a big increase over what the owners paid. Most likely, you could work a deal to split what they paid versus what the Panters will sell them for and get a great deal. Say if you get lower endzones that the owners paid $5k for 5 years ago - the Panthers charge $10k for those now. Make a deal to buy for $7k where they get their money back and some profit but still less than what the organization gets.

If I had extra funding right now, I'd get a couple PSLs. I'd at least get in the section that I want to be in and hold mine til the economy improves and I can pay for both PSLs. But no job in 4 weeks doesn't allow for that.

[CosmoGirl]

So if they revoke your PSL do you get the thousands you spent on it back?

Of course, Pollyanna.

now in the real world, no. They revoke them. Plus, they have no idea how much you paid for them, when re-sold to someone else. When my paperwork was done buying mine, they have no idea how much I paid the owner. I could've paid $1 or $10000.

[CosmoGirl]

Yea but you can own your home but this you will never own and also play a high price for.

Well, my home can be foreclosed upon for failure to pay my HOA dues. Same thing. $130k home foreclosed upon over a non-paid $100 unpaid montly fee. Crazy but it happens.

[2plankingpanther]

Why doesn't the franchise sell it(playoff tix) back to the nonPSL public if the PSL owner doesn't want to buy them,there are plenty of joe 6 packs that would love to go the games.Some of these PSL owners are whine and cheese and won't go to a game if it's a little chilly out,jonhnny 6 packs will go no matter what the weather is like!

[Go To Girl]

Because then there would have been some guy who decided to pay his invoice the day of the game after the ticket had been sold to the public only to find out that the panthers "wrongfully" sold his ticket and the threadwould be about how "unfair" that was.

[Skew]

Funny, it's the non PSL owners complaining, not the PSL owners.

[Cyberjag]

They're here to save us.

[Panthers_Lover]

Why doesn't the franchise sell it(playoff tix) back to the nonPSL public if the PSL owner doesn't want to buy them,there are plenty of joe 6 packs that would love to go the games.Some of these PSL owners are whine and cheese and won't go to a game if it's a little chilly out,jonhnny 6 packs will go no matter what the weather is like!

You guys crack me up. Let us have a bad season, and you "Jonhnny 6 packs" are nowhere to be found, while PSL owners already have paid their money for tickets, no matter the weather or the type of season we're having.