The Next Head Coach

[UNCrules2187]

PFT reported that Harbaugh's camp is looking for $7 mil per and that Michigan reportedly had offered $5 mil per.

[Dpantherman]

Giving a coach full control is very risky, which is why not alot of them have it. Off the top of my head:

Pete Carroll

Mike Shanahan

Andy Reid

Bill Belichick

[jarhead]

We better hire a coach that can develope raw talent.From what JR said they will be staying away from FAs.I personally think that was a stupid comment.As noted in this years team we needed position players that we may not be able to address in the draft.

[MWCarolina]

Giving a coach full control is very risky, which is why not alot of them have it. Off the top of my head:

Pete Carroll

Mike Shanahan

Andy Reid

Bill Belichick

it worked for Bellichick and Reid so far, not so much for Shanahan (though he's still got time) and Carroll too. Honestly, the only time i give a coach full control is when they are more of a legend at coach, Carroll (in my book) is a mistake. Anyways, we will hire a first time head coach it seems, i doubt they get two guys i think should get looked at and people will likely laugh at the ideas i offer, but as for who we hire, i see it being Ron Rivera and if he's the hire, go after McDaniels for coordinator.

[Bj-monster56]

I'm thinking about the language that's been used when they said going after "top NFL assistants"...not specifically coordinators. This is why I think 2 people have some appeal for us: Keith Butler & Winston Moss. I hope we hear one of their two names in the near future

Otherwise, I'm still liking McDermott & definitely would not be mad with Rivera. I think we should all be a little more positive about this. Not getting Harbaugh has been a likely scenario from the beginning.

It really has been from the start.What shocked me is what Harbaugh is asking for.But i understand why.He is trying to get all the control he can.The best thing i can say is For us Panthers fans is look on the bright side we might have a chance at Luck if he comes out.Also there is some other good coaches out there to.You just have to do alot of scouting on them.To make sure they are the right guy.An i feel Rivera will be it.

[Mr. Scot]

Giving a coach full control is very risky, which is why not alot of them have it. Off the top of my head:

Pete Carroll

Mike Shanahan

Andy Reid

Bill Belichick

The Eagles still have a GM (Howie Roseman) but Reid has a lot of power. Difference there is that he didn't start out with it. He earned it.

Belichick up until recently worked under Scott Pioli (now the architect of the chiefs). I don't remember if they hired a new GM or not, but that's another one who earned his sway it over time.

Shanahan...nuff said

Carroll had it handed to him for essentially being a successful college coach, but it should be noted that he's also a two time NFL head coach (both failures, but still).

Harbaugh was looking for roster control and one of the highest salaries in the league as a college coach with two years experience as an NFL position coach. I'm all for taking risks, but that's too much

[Actionman0z]

How do we know that that is what Harbaugh wanted? Where is the source of that information? I think it is still something to look at. Base his pay around players performance and game winning incentives along with playoff victories. I think balancing out Hurney's crazy brain after the last few years is worth a look.

[MWCarolina]

Shanahan...nuff said

Carroll had it handed to him for essentially being a successful college coach, but it should be noted that he's also a two time NFL head coach (both failures, but still).

Harbaugh was looking for roster control and one of the highest salaries in the league as a college coach with two years experience as an NFL position coach. I'm all for taking risks, but that's too much

Like i said, i wont give up on Shanahan just yet, i think he will try to make up for the McNabb trade by drafting Locker. As for Carroll, he did back in to the playoffs, i am not a fan of giving college coaches that much power.

[mav1234]

We better hire a coach that can develope raw talent.From what JR said they will be staying away from FAs.I personally think that was a stupid comment.As noted in this years team we needed position players that we may not be able to address in the draft.

When did JR say we won't be going after any FAs?

[mr beauxjangles]

Question about Perry Fewell:

Isn't his defensive mindset almost identical to Meeks? Cover two, bend don't break, read and react, create more turnovers, etc?

Does that appeal to anyone?

[Dpantherman]

I want more attitude and aggression, Fewell screams neither to me.

[rayzor]

sell me on rivera.

go beyond the stats, please. all those do is tell me he is a good DC. that doesn't necesarily mean that he is a good coach. DC might be his niche. why would we want him for more than that?

[mr beauxjangles]

sell me on rivera.

go beyond the stats, please. all those do is tell me he is a good DC. that doesn't necesarily mean that he is a good coach. DC might be his niche. why would we want him for more than that?

Although I've liked him for a while, I'm not completely sold on rivera because hell, I'm not a professional NFL-head-coach-talent-evaluatin-muthafugga.

But I trust former player opinions:

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/52255-the-next-head-coach-27.html#post2883945

I'm not saying that's sufficient, but it helps give me some confidence.

[Mr. Scot]

GREG MANUSKY

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MOST RECENT JOB: Defensive Coordinator, San Francisco 49ers

HISTORY: 49ers DC (2007-present) Chargers LB Coach (2002-2006) Redskins LB Coach (2001) Bucs intern (1999-2000) Twelve years as a player with the Redskins (1988-1990) Vikings (1991-1993) and Chiefs (1994-1999)

DOB: 08/12/66 (44)

STRENGTHS: Smart, hard nosed guy. Take a look at the Pro Bowl rosters for the 2000s and chances are good you’ll find somebody that was coached by Manusky. It’s quite a list, including Patrick Willis, Shawne Merriman, Donnie Edwards, LaVar Arrington and the great Junior Seau. He’s got a reputation for being a strong communicator and the defenses he’s coached have generally been strong. He’s also worked under good defensive minds like Tony Dungy, Monte Kiffin, Mike Singletary, Wade Phillips and Marty Schottenheimer.

QUESTIONS: His defensive units have usually finished in the middle to low end of the scale in total yards and points allowed. Despite rep as a hard-nosed player, seems to take a “bend but don’t break” approach sometimes. Not as experienced as some other candidates.

PANTHER CONNECTIONS: Played for the Redskins during the same three year period when Marty Hurney was working in the PR department. Was signed as an undrafted free agent by Hurney mentor Bobby Beathard. Two former Panthers on 49ers roster (Joe Nedney and David Carr). Coached against the Panthers in one of this season’s two wins.

WHO HE MIGHT BRING WITH HIM: 49er RB Coach Tom Rathman could make a good OC. Schottenheimer connection could help him land Marty’s brother Kurt as an ST coach. Would love if he could bring OL Coach Mike Solari along.

WHY WE MIGHT NOT GET HIM: No other interest known. Probably ours if we want him.

ODDS AND ENDS: Was named to John Madden’s “All Madden Team” for 1991. Northern accent might put off Southerners (not that that's a big deal)

ANALYSIS: What the Panthers are probably hoping for in looking at Manusky is the next Mike Smith, i.e. the guy that nobody is talking about who suddenly comes in and sets the league on fire. Unfortunately, there’s not a lot of evidence to suggest that’s what Manusky would be. Smith’s defensive units were consistently in the top ten of the league in yards and scoring. Manusky can only boast of one season in the top ten in scoring (2009) and while the list of Pro Bowlers he’s coached is nice, that doesn’t make him head coaching material. Personally, I’d love to have him as a linebacker coach, but not as a head coach or defensive coordinator.

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