Those who want Cam Newton First overall...

[cheynehowell]

Whoever says Cam does not love the game is an idiot.

[Fiz]

WTF kind of statement is that? :out: Oh, you must've plugged them all into Madden 2011 to see how they'd fare.. I see...

im going to assume that matt flyn chucking it up to early doucet is not the recipe for success.

[Carolina Husker]

If there is a hell I'm personally asking Cecil Newton how the money was laundered.

[Kurb]

If there is a hell I'm personally asking Cecil Newton how the money was laundered.

Offering plate.

[Tarheels23]

Again, please describe this scenario to me as best you can.

Well I can't predict the future, but let's say Luck doesn't come out and one of the freakish athletes such as Peterson or AJ Green becomes a must have with multiple top ten teams. Well with this scenario, I would trade down with one of these teams for their 1st as well as 2nd or 3rd round pick. Again nothing is guaranteed, but when you hold all the cards (have the #1 overall pick) it's much easier to determine who the teams below you are looking to draft, since they'll all be phoning for possible deals.

[RockECU]

Depending on the player, to either not be abject failures (Tyson Jackson, Dorsey, Craig Davis) or average, easily expendable role players (almost everyone else).

Your logic is horrific. You act as though other colleges have better track records as far as players "falling lower than their expectations".

Tell me, how does Auburn, or Stanford compare?? Not even close!

[Kurb]

Your logic is horrific. You act as though other colleges have better track records as far as players "falling lower than their expectations".

Tell me, how does Auburn, or Stanford compare?? Not even close!

[micnificent28]

right now if i had to deside who loves the game more cam or luck i'd say cam...

[RockECU]

im going to assume that matt flyn chucking it up to early doucet is not the recipe for success.

Again, I don't see what kind of assinine point you're trying to make.. but "matt flyn chucking it up to early doucet" seemed to be the recipe for success in winning the 2008 BCS National Championship game. :seeya:

[Carolina Husker]

Your logic is horrific. You act as though other colleges have better track records as far as players "falling lower than their expectations".

Tell me, how does Auburn, or Stanford compare?? Not even close!

Whatever you just said makes Les Miles sound coherent.

That list you provided is a veritable who's who of busts and gross underachievers. I'm sorry you're not able to admit it, but it doesn't change the reality.

[Kurb]

Again, I don't see what kind of assinine point you're trying to make.. but "matt flyn chucking it up to early doucet" seemed to be the recipe for success in winning the 2008 BCS National Championship game. :seeya:

Thats right!

Hester was running the ball too right ?

If it works in college I don't see why it wouldn't work in the NFL.

:lol::rofl:

[Carolina Husker]

Well I can't predict the future, but let's say Luck doesn't come out and one of the freakish athletes such as Peterson or AJ Green becomes a must have with multiple top ten teams. Well with this scenario, I would trade down with one of these teams for their 1st as well as 2nd or 3rd round pick. Again nothing is guaranteed, but when you hold all the cards (have the #1 overall pick) it's much easier to determine who the teams below you are looking to draft, since they'll all be phoning for possible deals.

Yes, teams trade up all the time to the #1 spot to take CBs and WRs, especially if it only costs them their first and second rounders to do so.

[Tarheels23]

Yes, teams trade up all the time to the #1 spot to take CBs and WRs, especially if it only costs them their first and second rounders to do so.

Dude you asked for scenarios, and being that neither one of us can predict the future, anything is possible. As Panther fans, we all can agree that watching everything play out will be very entertaining, as well as the most action we've had in years. Since '05 in my opinion!

[RockECU]

Whatever you just said makes Les Miles sound coherent.

That list you provided is a veritable who's who of busts and gross underachievers. I'm sorry you're not able to admit it, but it doesn't change the reality.

...I'm still waiting for your list of players who have achieved at the "right" levels...

Thank god you're not our GM if you think the following players are "busts".

Every player below is starting (with exception of Keiland Williams) or was a starter and is now on IR.

Joseph Addai

Dwayne Bowe

Ryan Clark

Glenn Dorsey

Alan Faneca

Kevin Faulk

Bradie James

Laron Landry

Todd McClure

Stephen Peterman

Marcus Spears

Corey Webster

Andrew Whitworth

Keiland Williams

Kyle Williams

Please tell me who the Carolina Panthers have drafted, in the previous 2 years, that can compare with any of these players?? Mike Goodson? Maybe?

You think that ANYONE on the Carolina Panthers current D-Line is better than Glenn Dorsey/Marcus Spears/Kyle Williams? Hester is MUCH better than Fiammetta.

At the end of the day, I guess the Carolina Panthers as of late are only interested in getting "talent" that won't produce for you anyway... so I don't even know why I'm arguing this with you.