Smitty closed door meeting with Richardson

[mav1234]

There's just some unrealistic expectations regarding what Smitty's market value is around here, that's all.

[JakeFlake]

ok, if we trade him, get that second round pick back.

[cdandi1]

Smitty probably was telling jerry and the front office that jimmy isn't the man, and that they need to re-evaluate the qb position. the FO hearing it from SS probably would be the reassurance they would need to draft another qb. Sure, smitty could be asking for a trade, but december is an odd time. Sure it wouldn't suprise me, but closed meetings don't always have to be negative, it could be the FO just getting opinions from one of their best players.

[Darth Urious]

I fully expect a big changeover this offseason, and that includes tagging DWill and trading him, trading Smitty, trading Gamble, and possibly even letting Kalil walk...

We'd get at least a 3rd for Smitty or else make him finish out his contract... so don't worry about that... Possibly even a 2nd...

Gamble could bring a 3rd plus one...

DWill could bring a 2nd plus one...

A lot of those moves will depend on CBA stuff, but I'm betting that they'll work all that out... If a deal is reached though, that could also mean goodbye to Charles Johnson among others...

The good news is that monetarily, we should be in excellent shape to spend some money... The bad news is that we've kinda shut down any desire for someone to want to play here... That will (hopefully) be corrected with some new FO staff hires...

[brandon_87]

I agree some people think these trade values are inflated, the league is all about getting younger now, smith would probably bring us a 5th, williams a 3rd at best. Keep dreaming if you think someone would trade a 1st for a RB that is always hurt, or a 2nd for a WR over 30

[mav1234]

It's a terrible time to request a trade. It does not help the team. It does not help the player. It's one thing to meet with the owner privately because you're unhappy, but demanding a trade when you physically can't get one is...

well, I just don't think Smitty would do that.

[Brooklyn Bully]

Maybe a little birdy told him that they (Hurney and JR) have no pressing desire to draft a QB in the first round. This made Smitty panic, as he will only continue to rot here, under these circumstances. So he, Smitty, went to JR on his own to pretty much say: get me a QB or I want out.

I like that complete guess best.

[Darth Urious]

lol @ DWill always being hurt...

[CRA]

I fully expect a big changeover this offseason, and that includes tagging DWill and trading him, trading Smitty, trading Gamble, and possibly even letting Kalil walk...

We'd get at least a 3rd for Smitty or else make him finish out his contract... so don't worry about that... Possibly even a 2nd...

Gamble could bring a 3rd plus one...

DWill could bring a 2nd plus one...

A lot of those moves will depend on CBA stuff, but I'm betting that they'll work all that out... If a deal is reached though, that could also mean goodbye to Charles Johnson among others...

The good news is that monetarily, we should be in excellent shape to spend some money... The bad news is that we've kinda shut down any desire for someone to want to play here... That will (hopefully) be corrected with some new FO staff hires...

you don't let Kalil walk. You put him some consistant bodies at the G positions and he will be back to his old self.

[Darth Urious]

you don't let Kalil walk. You put him some consistant bodies at the G positions and he will be back to his old self.

I don't, but the Panthers very well could...

[The Saltman]

we let kalil walk and u think our problems on the OL will get any better? u the guy who says the reason Jimmy clausen sucks is because of the OL?

[CRA]

It's a terrible time to request a trade. It does not help the team. It does not help the player. It's one thing to meet with the owner privately because you're unhappy, but demanding a trade when you physically can't get one is...

well, I just don't think Smitty would do that.

it is not a terrible time imo. Season is done.....Smitty knows lots of decisions will be made shortly in a couple months. Now is probably a good time to get on the same page w/ Jerry.

[Darth Urious]

we let kalil walk and u think our problems on the OL will get any better? u the guy who says the reason Jimmy clausen sucks is because of the OL?

Have the Panthers made very many personnel moves that would make you think they know what they are doing lately?

[Mr. Scot]

the rest of the league has had to gameplan against him for what is soon to be almost a decade. They have seen the film.......the rest of the league knows they can get a legit WR for cheap likely b/c they can play the troublemaker card and it will work.

Do they?

We're Panther fans. We see Smitty, a man among boys.

Outside, more objective minds may see a guy on the wrong side of thirty with two major injuries in two years, a severe drop-off in production (some might even say effort) and a history of being a bad boy who can't always keep his mouth shut (or his fists unclenched).

Fair or not, if Marty Hurney tries to swing a trade, those are the things they'll bring up when it's time to talk about compensation and market value.

You can't look at him through Panther fan eyes and be realistic.