Fox: Clausen will remain Panthers QB

[carpanfan52]

IMO, If neither Luck nor Newton declare for the draft, we will go after a free agent like McNabb to hold the position down for a couple of years. Clausen will not be the starter for this team after this year unless the FO want to go 1-15 again.

Why wouldn't you go for a vet in the first place..we don't need another rookie, we need a veteran presence at quarterback with more experience then 6 games..that's what we've needed this whole time. i think signing a veteran backup at quarterback would do wonders for jimmy clausen. Sign a veteran who can control the ball and not make stupid decisions and cause turnovers. let jimmy sit and learn until he's ready..that would also free up the first pick in the draft for an offensive lineman or a cornerback to replace the dreadful chris gamble..the passing game will grow eventually

[Cavscout]

Jimmy can sit and learn all he wants but without the mental skills to perform the duties of a pro QB, he may never be nothing more than a backup

[Carl Spackler]

Your whole perspective is rooted in Clausen holding onto his job because neither Luck or Newton declares for the draft. Well I can almost guarantee you that Newton is coming out no matter what Luck does. With money for his parents being an issue and the concerns he had in college, he knows that the best thing that he can do is get in the NFl and start making big bucks. He won every award this year which means he has nothing left to stay for unless they lose the national championship. Even then he wil be advised by everyone to run to the NFl while the getting is good before they find out what really happens with the scandal.

As for Luck, it makes little sense for his to stay as well. He will be told that coming out this year makes total sense as he will be the number 1 pick and frankly can't be higher. As for the whole CBA uncertainty, first rounders often aren't signed before June or July anyway and a deal will be done before then. Teams need the revenue generated by season tickets and box seats which get paid in the spring. There is no reason that folks will string this out and hawks like Richardson may be in the minority as this thing drags on and teams starting losing big money.

Nah one or both will declare and as poorly as Clausen has played, he has done nothing to show he will be the starter next year. I suspect that if he had even played decently they would have gone in a different direction and picked someone other than another quarterback, but he has almost guaranteed they would bring in another guy or two to compete.

As well they should. He deserves a fair shake at the job in training camp but certainly not the job handed to him, though we know that won't happen after having seen how "well" Jake did in '09 with that and Moore this year.

Of the two I really want us to pick Cam but living where I do, working where I do with who I work with, I know people close to Cam and while they think he'll take the big bucks, I'm nowhere near as convinced with Malzahn returning.

[Cavscout]

If the NCAA finds anything else on Cam, he could be suspended. I see him coming out no matter what Malzahn does

[Carl Spackler]

this is the NFL, you don't get to stand in the pocket w/ no pressure. you have to play like Matt Schuab did last night......you have to successfully deal w/ the pressure coming at you.

The pressure will never stop coming at Clausen b/c of how he reacts to it. The OL isn't going to solve that....Clasuen has to.

Yeah, the OL needs to play better but you can't keep trying to pin Clausen's issues elsewhere.

When you play teams as bad as us you have time to grab a sandwich and a beer, check out the hot chick in the third row who caught Clausen's first pass and still make a throw downfield. Like Ryan Sunday for the most part.

I'm not saying you always have time but NFL teams ordinarily provide more than 1.5 seconds or less of protection for the QB, that's a fact. If he gets that protection and still sucks it's on him but if the pocket keeps instantly collapsing even with a 4 or 3-man rush, that's not on him.

[panthers55]

As well they should. He deserves a fair shake at the job in training camp but certainly not the job handed to him, though we know that won't happen after having seen how "well" Jake did in '09 with that and Moore this year.

Of the two I really want us to pick Cam but living where I do, working where I do with who I work with, I know people close to Cam and while they think he'll take the big bucks, I'm nowhere near as convinced with Malzahn returning.

Making comparisons to what happened to Jake in 09 or Moore this year make little sense given that we will have a new coaching staff. I suspect that everyone will get a fair shake. As for Newton or Luck it likely depends on who we bring in as coach and what style they prefer. It isn't just finding a talented guy but finding one that fits your system well. Either could do a good job but they are certainly very different.

[Carl Spackler]

It was as much the FO's decision to resign Jake and tag Moore as it was the coaches', and the FO is back.

I think in training camp we'll have Newton, Clausen, St. Pierre and Pike. Pike will go the way of Stefan LeFors, Clausen will start weeks 1-2, and Newton 3-17. We will win the Super Bowl because Newton wins everywhere he goes and if something happens once, it is guaranteed to keep happening. /sarcasm

[CRA]

When you play teams as bad as us you have time to grab a sandwich and a beer, check out the hot chick in the third row who caught Clausen's first pass and still make a throw downfield. Like Ryan Sunday for the most part.

I'm not saying you always have time but NFL teams ordinarily provide more than 1.5 seconds or less of protection for the QB, that's a fact. If he gets that protection and still sucks it's on him but if the pocket keeps instantly collapsing even with a 4 or 3-man rush, that's not on him.

watch some other games and pay attention to how quick pressure gets there.......Clausen crumbles other QBs don't. Pressure gets there just as quick often for other teams. The Texans last night was a prime example.

[carpanfan52]

Jimmy can sit and learn all he wants but without the mental skills to perform the duties of a pro QB, he may never be nothing more than a backup

i don't agree with that at all..i do think that there are some rookies who can come in and take over from the start (sam bradford, mark sanchez ect..) but there are also qb's who need to sit and learn (aaron rodgers, tom brady) Jimmy obvioulsy can't handle being thrown in right away but that dosn't mean he'll never be a good quarterback. He didnt get where he is by not knowing how to play qb, he's got the talent he just looks overwhelmed on every play. That means you take him out, let him get more comfortable, put in a veteran who can hold it down, not neccissarily drop bombs, jsut manage the game..it could only help jimmy clausen as a qb. the guy has everything going against him. The oline is playing terrible which, along with injuries, has stalled the running game causing us to turn to jimmy early and he's throwing to a bunch of rookies and steve smith who is admittidly playing terrible. Im just sayin, troy aikman went 1-11 his first year. keep jimmy around, bring in a solid veteran, get oline help in the draft, get deangelo back, they all have full year under their belt.

[Carl Spackler]

watch some other games and pay attention to how quick pressure gets there.......Clausen crumbles other QBs don't. Pressure gets there just as quick often for other teams. The Texans last night was a prime example.

How much better across the board are the Texans? Much.

You're comparing a pro-bowl player to an underachieving rookie. Of course there's a difference. If Clausen took sacks instead of his out of bounds rollout throw, we'd easily have 60 this year. As it is we're just 1 out of first.

[carpanfan52]

Jimmy can sit and learn all he wants but without the mental skills to perform the duties of a pro QB, he may never be nothing more than a backup

i don't agree with that at all..i do think that there are some rookies who can come in and take over from the start (sam bradford, mark sanchez ect..) but there are also qb's who need to sit and learn. Jimmy obvioulsy can't handle being thrown in right away but that dosn't mean he'll never be a good quarterback. He just looks overwhelmed on every play, that means you take him out, let him get more comfortable, put in a veteran who can hold it down, not neccissarily drop bombs, just throw it to steve smith and hand it off..it could only help jimmy clausen as a qb. the guy has everything going against him. The oline is playing terrible which, along with injuries, has stalled the running game causing us to turn to jimmy early and he's throwing to a bunch of rookies and steve smith who is admittidly playing terrible. Im just sayin, troy aikman went 1-11 his first year. keep jimmy around, bring in a solid veteran, get oline help in the draft, get deangelo back, they all have full year under their belt.

[panthers55]

It was as much the FO's decision to resign Jake and tag Moore as it was the coaches', and the FO is back.

I think in training camp we'll have Newton, Clausen, St. Pierre and Pike. Pike will go the way of Stefan LeFors, Clausen will start weeks 1-2, and Newton 3-17. We will win the Super Bowl because Newton wins everywhere he goes and if something happens once, it is guaranteed to keep happening. /sarcasm

The coach has a lot to say with the talent, the Fo makes sure the contract fits and is part of the design going forward. The decision to resign Jake was a mutual one with front office and coach, the decision to part ways was a front office one. We didn't franchise tag Moore we tendered him as a restricted free agent. We did that because it was cheaper than signing him long term and it gave us one player with minimal experience.

As for next year lets see what happens with the coach. We know Clausen wil be here but the rest is up for debate. Wouldn't be surprised if Null were the backup not BSP. As for draft picks or third or fourth stringers going into camp, it is way too early yet. I doubt we pick him but for example if Gruden was the coach the list of guys he would bring into camp would be 6 or 7 guys deep.

[CRA]

How much better across the board are the Texans? Much.

You're comparing a pro-bowl player to an underachieving rookie. Of course there's a difference. If Clausen took sacks instead of his out of bounds rollout throw, we'd easily have 60 this year. As it is we're just 1 out of first.

No, I am just talking about pressure getting to QBs. Jimmy isn't unique like you want to paint him.....he deals with it horrifically unique. That makes the OL look even worse. That is what David Carr did. The biggest reason we suck is poor QB play. Sure, there is a list of other reasons we suck.....but QB play is the biggest reason. Insert a good QB and everyone would appear to be better.

[CRA]

also a new HC is going to bring in more than a draft pick at QB.