MMQB - Peter King on State of the Panthers

[PhillyB]

peter king is a proven dumbass and has no credibility whatsoever. i don't even know why i read the article

[CatMan72]

Apparently he does not understand our PSL model.

There is no re-upping....don't buy the tix and you will forfeit your PSL investment.

Exactly, many people will renew simply because they don't want to walk away from the initial investment.

[Brooklyn Bully]

The best way to hurt him is to not show up. He makes money off concessions and memorabilia. I just don't see many PSL holders giving up their right to their seats. I mean...once the team turns it around you won't have your seats anymore. It's almost like paying taxes. Keeping your PSLs is a must every single year.

[Future of the Funchise]

My question is how long do you guys think we are gonna stay down in this poo hole we have dug ourselves into?

[SOJA]

peter king = not a clue

1) $2.5mil for a HC? except for this year, richardson pays.

2) season ticket holders will continue being season ticket holders. they do't really have much of a choice. won't keep the fans form staying home, but those seats will still be sold.

yes. why do people keep acting like this guy knows what he is talking about

[Carolina Husker]

I'm neg-repping anyone who posts a Peter King article from here on out.

[The Saltman]

u neg rep me and i will stop giving u rep, meaning u will never get rep again.

[MadHatter]

My question is how long do you guys think we are gonna stay down in this poo hole we have dug ourselves into?

If we get a CBA done, I expect to see Luck at QB and being a major player in FA. Therefore, I see us being 7-9 next season.....and back to playoff contention the next year.

[ggasu]

Which is what I will probably do. My club seats go up from $140/ea this year to $200/ea next year. Considering the PSL was $1500/ea about 17 years ago, that's not so bad a hit over that time.

At $200 per ticket most of the club 3 psls will be turned in. The upper deck psls are pretty much in the same boat. Not worth enough to keep.

[Pimpdaddy]

If we get a CBA done, I expect to see Luck at QB and being a major player in FA. Therefore, I see us being 7-9 next season.....and back to playoff contention the next year.

Yea, best case scenario....

[Darth Bobo]

My question is how long do you guys think we are gonna stay down in this poo hole we have dug ourselves into?

Any of us can only speculate.

But with salary caps, and draft/free agent rules designed to create parity, a wild swing from rags to riches is not that unexpected....Tampa Bay did it.

For that reason, I think above and beyond any consideration is the CBA. I say it affects us more than any other team, since we are the franchise that exploited -beyond any other team- the uncapped year for the purpose of eliminating all top heavy veteran contracts. It was Richardson's gamble that the owners would stand firm through a lockout. If he's right, and they do, we will reap many benefits from his strategy. If the Big Cat was wrong, and the majority of owners cave in for the sake of business as usual, the Panthers franchise will lose more than the veterans we had, and this year's losses.

One first round pick isn't going to save this team. A 2011 CBA that rewards the tightly managed franchise will reward the Panthers, because despite the losses we are running a tight ship.

Will Chicago have to make even a small roster sacrifice in order to keep Julius Peppers at 20m per year? Will the Redskins suffer any consequences, in the form of roster departures, resulting from their god awful Albert Haynesworth signing? Only a new CBA can answer questions like these. But if the answer is no, because the owners WIMP OUT, then we are doomed....and I mean for a long time. If those franchises, and those personnel strategies, are the ones who have some harsh sacrifices to make under the next CBA, the Panthers will surely reap the spoils of economic war.

One thing is for damned sure. If you are a Panther fan, you had better be hoping that the owners win this battle, and not the players union.

[MaineManPanther]

John Fox recieved around five million annualy. I don't know why King thinks we'll only pay half of that.

[raleigh-panther]

I'm neg-repping anyone who posts a Peter King article from here on out.

No offense to you, intended at all as I like your posts, but, Peter King is a pretty respected sports writer and most of his articles are very fair.

He doesn't pretend to know everything and will admit when he is wrong, like predicting the Panthers to be a dark horse this year.

Maybe he has a different perspective on the outside looking in.

From what I hear, sitting in the stadium in my section week in and week out, no no name defensive coordinator or offensive coordinator is going to put people back in the seats for a long long time. There has been a basic trust broken between the people who pay every year and the person who provides and that, is not a good situation.

I'm just someone else with an opinion. I believe Peter King is right this time.

[Darth Bobo]

There has been a basic trust broken between the people who pay every year and the person who provides and that, is not a good situation.

I think that is a good point, and an opinion which I imagine many dedicated fans share. Those who paid for 2010 PSL's in particular have every right to feel this has been a lame duck year for the Panthers, because the front office has not offered anythign significant to contradict that, at least from the fan experience.

Our team is perhaps even more silent than usual, which is hard for me to say with a straight face considering how little public access information our franchise has given out over the years. It is only natural to misinterpret Richardson when he is this silent in the face of such failure to produce entertainment, and I'm not just complaining about wins. The only reason I can imagine for the lack of a sympathetic public outreach from him, is that the stakes are as high for him personally as they are for this team.