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Zod

By Zod,
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LOL, thank you!

If Luck doesn't come out, then I'm of the opinion that we should try to trade down and get a high 2nd round pick back. It will be much easier to trade out of the 1st or 2nd overall pick this year with a rookie pay scale on the horizon.

but then the huddle will have to figure out what to do with jimmy...again!

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It is starting to look more and more like Cowher and Carolina might join forces. I think it has been the plan all along, why Cowher waited and why JR did not re-sign Fox and cleaned house--defensively for the most part. He knew the coversion to the 3-4 would be expensive. Then his letter comes out the same week Cowher proclaims interest in the league when only 3-4 jobs are obvious? We drafted Eric Norwood--how does he fit the 4-3? We drafted a former QB turned WR hybrid. Slash II?

This will influence the draft. After nabbing a QB, the Panthers will use free agency to build the D and an OL. JR has given Cowher a lot of room under the cap to build the D he wants. This also suggests (possibly) that Cowher will be given the power to make personnel decisions. I cannot be sure that he has not already been involved.

This is pure speculation, not based on anything but loosely-constructed circumstantial evidence, if evidence at all. When Marino made a comment about Cowher and the Panthers and later apologized, it suggested that there may be more to this than anyone on the outside knows. Does it make sense to anyone else, or do you all think I am on drugs?

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