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Lets end the discussion, it doesnt matter that the OL sucks, JIMMY IS GARBAGE


malik

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Back away from the cliff. At this point, what is the alternative. You would really rather see St. Pierre out there. The front office needs to get a good look at Clausen so they know what to do in the offseason.

Look at the year Brett Favre had without any receivers. He was garbage too and he is one of the best if not the best QB to play football and he even struggled without receivers and protection.

I hear you, Claussen does not look good, but he isn't getting any help that ROOKIE QBs RELY ON. Plus, the Panthers aren't in the NFC West.

Most rookie QBs would love to get a 200 yard rushing performance, hell any of the rushing performances we've had the last 4-5 weeks.

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I will just repost my last post in one of your threads.

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Everyone realizes our problems are deeper than QB.

It's quite obvious. But giving Clausen a pass just because we have deep rooted problems elsewhere is utterly useless.

I'm sick and tired of this 'game manager' bullshit. It's just a veiled euphemism for your QB not being a play maker, someone you cannot rely on to win games.

I'm not advocating to cut the kid, but it's obvious he's not ready whatsoever. I don't think we can afford to pass on any top QB prospects high in the draft because Pickles may turn out to be an 'OK' game manager in 3 years.

QB IS A PROBLEM, as well as OL, DL, WR, etc etc etc

If you have a f*cking problem at QB, that's the most important problem you have.

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Most rookie QBs would love to get a 200 yard rushing performance, hell any of the rushing performances we've had the last 4-5 weeks.

No argument there, but the play calling is still terrible. They only run like 5 pass plays and most of them are more lateral than up field. You can't run all these short plays against a cover 2 and expect results. Not to mention as I said before, we aren't in the NFC West.

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clausen was sacked 5 times, hard to complete a passes when you are lying on your back. clausen has no faith in his line to protect him, which is why he just runs around the field. He has David Carr syndrome now.

...and when he does have time he checks it down or throws it out of bounds. Blame our OL, go ahead, they deserve some blame, but for the love of GOD PLEASE stop using that as excuse to give Pickles a pass.

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Everyone realizes our problems are deeper than QB.It's quite obvious. But giving Clausen a pass just because we have deep rooted problems elsewhere is utterly useless.

I'm sick and tired of this 'game manager' bullshit. It's just a veiled euphemism for your QB not being a play maker, someone you cannot rely on to win games.

I'm not advocating to cut the kid, but it's obvious he's not ready whatsoever. I don't think we can afford to pass on any top QB prospects high in the draft because Pickles may turn out to be an 'OK' game manager in 3 years.

QB IS A PROBLEM, as well as OL, DL, WR, etc etc etc

If you have a f*cking problem at QB, that's the most important problem you have.

lol..No they dont.

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clausen was sacked 5 times, hard to complete a passes when you are lying on your back. clausen has no faith in his line to protect him, which is why he just runs around the field. He has David Carr syndrome now.

At this point.. wouldn't he at least try to make a play? No Risk. No Reward. Better than throwing a pick on a dumpoff or a short route. Seriously, how hard is it to drop back and chuck it up in the air blindly and have your receiver go get it. Who cares if it gets intercepted, he's throwing interceptions while playing it safe anyway.

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...and when he does have time he checks it down or throws it out of bounds. Blame our OL, go ahead, they deserve some blame, but for the love of GOD PLEASE stop using that as excuse to give Pickles a pass.

not giving him a pass, just saying because of the Oline, the damage has been done.

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lol..No they dont.

Alright well I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.

When you're 1-12, it's pretty obvious QB cannot be your only problem.

But suppose they don't know, doesn't change the fact that the masses belly-aching over Pickles is justified, as it is our most important problem.

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Alright well I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.

When you're 1-12, it's pretty obvious QB cannot be your only problem.

But suppose they don't know, doesn't change the fact that the masses belly-aching over Pickles is justified, as it is our most important problem.

True..the entire team is playing bad and it does start with the QB but its not the only problem. Most people see that but there are still some posters that want to blame everything on the QB.

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