Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

[Guild]

oblivion is the aids that is killing rpgs

No it's consoles. But, I feel you.

Oblivion wants to be Daggerfall and I commend it for trying to but given the limitations of the consoles it can't even come close.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

consoles are the aids that is killing gaming

[carpanfan96]

consoles are the aids that is killing gaming

Yes and no.

It's the developers who play toward the Console crowd and make adjustments to games that don't need those adjustments. Also if it wasn't for consoles, gaming wouldn't be what it is today. It wouldn't be the multi billion dollar industry that it is and you wouldn't be getting titles that spend 40 + million on development.

I understand what you're saying, as I hate playing a game that's been simplified down just so the casual gamer who owns an xbox360 or PS3 can play it with out being confused about what to do next.

It all goes back on the developers that force their development team to do something they don't want to do.

Great example of this is the difference between Morrowind and Oblivion.

A funnier and more recent one is the difference between DA and DA2 or ME 1 and ME 2 and whats going to be ME 3.

I mean it's not that difficult to make a game on PC then port it over on minimal graphical settings to the PS3 and 360. Is it more difficult the doing the opposite, of course it is. That's besides the point and isn't how games should be done.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Yeah I love it when a production company spends 40 million on cutscenes, specular highlights, filters and advertising.

Who needs more than 5 hours of gameplay?

[carpanfan96]

Yeah I love it when a production company spends 40 million on cutscenes, specular highlights, filters and advertising.

Who needs more than 5 hours of gameplay?

That's a product of the business environment of gaming. PC gaming was headed down this road long before Consoles.

The reason for that is the cost that it takes to push graphics and system capabilities is growing more expensive everyday. A game that cost 6 million to make 5 years ago, now cost in the upper 30 - 40 million dollar range.

I mean just look at the first Crysis game, it cost 22 million to make and the development studio didn't make enough profit off of it. Sales were very disappointing because of piracy and then Crysis 2 comes out and it's on Consoles so they can make money. Piracy is the reason that Crysis 2 wasn't made only for PC's.

If anyone is to blame its PC gamers who don't buy games and just download them. It's one of the major reasons that major developers and publishers don't make PC exclusive games anymore.

[carpanfan96]

consoles are the aids that is killing gaming

So we have learned today that whats actually killing PC gaming is well.....

Actually PC gamers are killing PC gaming...

[Porn Shop Clerk]

PC gaming is on better legs than it has been in years thanks to direct to download and digital rights management services.

I don't two squirts of piss about major productions in gaming. They're all overrated, overhyped, overpriced and really about some kind of silly gimmick that makes the game so easy there's no point in playing it to begin with.

I'll take just about any indie PC gaming company over any of the big boys.

[carpanfan96]

PC gaming is on better legs than it has been in years thanks to direct to download and digital rights management services.

I don't two squirts of piss about major productions in gaming. They're all overrated, overhyped, overpriced and really about some kind of silly gimmick that makes the game so easy there's no point in playing it to begin with.

I'll take just about any indie PC gaming company over any of the big boys.

PC gaming is on an upswing and does appear to be healthy again.

I also agree about indie developers, there are very few major developers that I still like or that I buy games from. I love indie games, most of the games I play on my PC or my PS3 are just that indie games. I think the last disk based or downloadable game I bought from a Major studio was DA 2 and I was majorly disappointed in that game that I won't be buying another DA game.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

2k and Eidos put forth solid efforts, even if they're somewhat shaky in execution and thin on content.

[necroplasm]

consoles are the aids that is killing gaming

It's not so much the consoles it just greed really.

[necroplasm]

consoles are the aids that is killing gaming

It's not so much the consoles itself, it's just greed.. really. M$ for the most part

[Porn Shop Clerk]

And the morons falling over themselves to pay 5$ for horse armor.

[mmmbeans]

$5? Seriously, do you know how much horse armor costs to craft?

$5 is a steal!

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Yeah I'm sure there's no way they could have included that code in the game launch!

I would say it was too buggy, but that didn't stop them from launching the game itself.