Ron Meeks Is New D-Coordinator

[saladdodger]

At this point I'd settle for DC that can teach the secondary how to catch an interception.

[thefuzz]

The basis of the Cover 2 is getting pressure with your front four, something we've relied on for years. Doing so doesn't mean you need smaller or quicker personnel. I doubt we see many changes at all with regard to personnel, we still need a BIG DT, IMO.

Something that we have relied on, but outside of Pep, and including him last year we have not been able to do on a consistent basis.

[Highlandfire]

Something that we have relied on, but outside of Pep, and including him last year we have not been able to do on a consistent basis.

There is the key, we need pass rush from the front 4. I think DE needs to be our first pick (if not our first two picks) in this draft that we get from the peppers trade.

[monstercat]

Well, there is no doubt in my mind that this is still John Fox's defense, but unlike a lot of fans, I don't see that as a bad thing.

I listened to Jon Beason, Chris Harris, and Charles Godfrey every week on WFNZ during the season, and the common theme was that they kept admitting to making mistakes in run fits and in coverage. I never heard them say that they didn't know what to do, or that they were unsure of, or not confident in the schemes, they flat out just made mistakes. That's not a scheme problem at all and it has nothing to do with a players draft status or how much money they make.

So my hope is that Meeks will bring a different perspective and pay a little more attention to detail, which seems to be one of his strengths, and that the players will respond.

Change can be a good thing in football, but that doesn't mean that Trgovac was the bumbling idiot that many fans made him out to be.

[Zod]

Change can be a good thing in football, but that doesn't mean that Trgovac was the bumbling idiot that many fans made him out to be.

The fact that he was demoted to a position coach does.

[monstercat]

The fact that he was demoted to a position coach does.

Obviously, that was his choice. He turned the Panthers down, remember?

[Highlandfire]

The fact that he was demoted to a position coach does.

Exactly

[Highlandfire]

Obviously, that was his choice. He turned the Panthers down, remember?

Well he was so damn well thought of, no one else wanted him as anything but a position coach. That says a lot right there.

Bottom line, he didn't like his boss getting in his arse because he was consistantly screwing up. Do your job right and the boss stays off your arse, that is how it works.

[monstercat]

Trgovac wasn't fired, and he wasn't demoted. The Panthers had the papers ready and fully expected him ro re-sign with the team. He turned us down and made the decision to take the D-line position with the Packers.

If he had been fired, you guys would have a point, but he wasn't.

[Highlandfire]

Our point is he didn't return because Fox would have been in his arse when he screwed up again. And Again I will state, he stunk so badly as a DC no one else offered him the same gig. He had to take a demotion with another team to stay coaching. Nuff said.

[vatarheel]

I'm good with it; he's got a pretty good track record; I do agree the secondary needs first priority.

[mantal]

Trgovac wasn't fired, and he wasn't demoted. The Panthers had the papers ready and fully expected him ro re-sign with the team. He turned us down and made the decision to take the D-line position with the Packers.

If he had been fired, you guys would have a point, but he wasn't.

There are many of us who believe he was allowed to resign instead of being fired, save face and all that. That he took a lower level job within 24 hours of the fact seems to support that position, at least in my mind...

Maybe so, maybe not, we'll never know...

[monstercat]

There are many of us who believe he was allowed to resign instead of being fired, save face and all that. That he took a lower level job within 24 hours of the fact seems to support that position, at least in my mind...

Maybe so, maybe not, we'll never know...

That doesn't make any sense to me. If the team wanted him gone, they could have just fired him like they did with Henning. Hell, probably half of the coaches in the NFL have been fired at one time or another, and had no trouble finding other jobs, so I just don't buy the "saving face" theory.

As far as him not getting offered another DC job...the guy was on the market for 1day. Who knows what kind of offers he would have gotten if he didn't jump on the Packers job? I guarantee you that NFL insiders don't see Trgovac in the same light that Panthers fans do.

[mantal]

That doesn't make any sense to me. If the team wanted him gone, they could have just fired him like they did with Henning. Hell, probably half of the coaches in the NFL have been fired at one time or another, and had no trouble finding other jobs, so I just don't buy the "saving face" theory.

As far as him not getting offered another DC job...the guy was on the market for 1day. Who knows what kind of offers he would have gotten if he didn't jump on the Packers job? I guarantee you that NFL insiders don't see Trgovac in the same light that Panthers fans do.

I see where you're coming from too, but why did he jump on a job that was technically a "demotion" within 24 hours? That's telling to me. If, as you maintain, the NFL see him better than Panther fans do, then why would he accept a downgrade so quickly when he could have waited and possibly gotten a better offer - unless he had some knowledge that he wouldn't have gotten one?...