Worst Situation in the NFL

[SteveSmithOwns]

I mentioned that you said he could. But you claim I am killing him without giving him a chance, which I never once said. I stated that in his limited starts, he isn't a manager. I never said anything about the future. Any QB "could" become a game manager, so saying it about Clausen doesn't hold much weight.

Yes he throws to 2 rookies. Considering at least half the time we only use 2 WRs, one being Smith who Clausen rarely throws to, I don't consider that an excuse. As much as he throws the checkdown, who lines up as WR is irrelevant most of the time.

well, the reason we primarily use 2 receiver sets is because the lack of depth at the WR position.

Clausen does look scared back there. He looks like he's afraid to make mistakes. I would prefer him to try and make something happen than just throw it away, mostly because it won't matter this season if he does.

Again, I am all aboard the Andrew Luck bandwagon. If we get the #1 pick, i'm praying we pick him. I'm hoping Clausen becomes better, not expecting it

[SteveSmithOwns]

So basically your only argument is age, that's fair just say it. Both guys won't have starting jobs next year so that isn't a good argument either. My argument was that Clausen is no where near the QB Anderson is, which is sad because DA isn't that good.

well, I'm not sure he's not no where near the QB Anderson is, but yeah it is because of age. if a gun pointed to my head and I had to pick for this year, it would be Anderson, but I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable about it. but because of his lack of nfl xp and age I would go Clausen

[TheRealDeal]

well, the reason we primarily use 2 receiver sets is because the lack of depth at the WR position.

Clausen does look scared back there. He looks like he's afraid to make mistakes. I would prefer him to try and make something happen than just throw it away, mostly because it won't matter this season if he does.

Again, I am all aboard the Andrew Luck bandwagon. If we get the #1 pick, i'm praying we pick him. I'm hoping Clausen becomes better, not expecting it

False, our offense has always been two WR, TE, FB, TB

[SteveSmithOwns]

False, our offense has always been two WR, TE, FB, TB

correct, when we are actually in the game. But most of the games we have been behind, and 3 wr, te, hb should be utilized. instead, we still have to keep going with the normal package because of what we lack

[TheRealDeal]

correct, when we are actually in the game. But most of the games we have been behind, and 3 wr, te, hb should be utilized. instead, we still have to keep going with the normal package because of what we lack

That's because John Fox is stubborn, not lack of experience

[chef17]

False, our offense has always been two WR, TE, FB, TB

This. Also, for Clausen to become a game manager, he can't be scared to throw downfield when necessary. Always throwing the check down won't make a good game manager. Again I'm going off his limited starts, but he hasn't led me to believe he will start throwing downfield. So yes, he could become a game manager just like any other QB could. But right now I have no reason to believe he will.

[SteveSmithOwns]

This. Also, for Clausen to become a game manager, he can't be scared to throw downfield when necessary. Always throwing the check down won't make a good game manager. Again I'm going off his limited starts, but he hasn't led me to believe he will start throwing downfield. So yes, he could become a game manager just like any other QB could. But right now I have no reason to believe he will.

I agree. But there is a chance. and because of the age factor, even if it is a lower chance, I would still pick Clausen

[SteveSmithOwns]

That's because John Fox is stubborn, not lack of experience

That is a factor, yeah, but if we did have three great receivers, I don't see how even Fox would be able to not put them out on the field at the same time

[chef17]

I agree. But there is a chance. and because of the age factor, even if it is a lower chance, I would still pick Clausen

I agree age gives him a chance, but it takes more than just age. Hopefully Clausen does develop and improve, but we currently have little reason to think he will other than he is young.

[life of BillsFan]

well, let's make it simpler then. Besides QB, WR and HB, could you name 5 people on the Bills?

I'll start with the 2 probowlers this year of "non skill positions"

Kyle Williams

Brian Moorman

Others that football fans should know

Paul Pozlusnsky

Jairus Byrd

Donte Whitner

Terrence Mcgee

Marcus Stroud

Dwan Edwards

Rian Lindell

[AceMan]

Your right, it points to him being a ROOKIE. you guys are killing him before even giving him a chance.

I'm glad alot of you aren't the Panthers HC. say what you want about Fox, but atleast he gives his players a chance. some pan out others don't. Thomas Davis wasn't that great his first few seasons. After one year of Smith only returning punts, you guys would probably think that's all he could do. Wharton wouldn't be on our team anymore since he started slow also.

now he has missed on players like Godfrey, and sticks with players too long like Delhomme, Stephen Davis and LaShawn Foster, but he does give them a chance

I get what you're trying to say...

But don't use this logic.

DeAngelo Williams alone defeats your whole point. Also, you're reaching to prove a point.

I do agree with you though.

[Mr. Scot]

The Bengals are absolutely the worst organization in the NFL.

The Lions are close, and the Raiders have been awful for a long time as well. But the title of absolute worst still belongs to the Bengals and probably will for a long time unless, for the good of football, the league finds a way to wrest the team away from Mike Brown.

[RockECU]

The Bengals are absolutely the worst organization in the NFL.

The Lions are close, and the Raiders have been awful for a long time as well. But the title of absolute worst still belongs to the Bengals and probably will for a long time unless, for the good of football, the league finds a way to wrest the team away from Mike Brown.

Weren't really talking about worst organization, we're talking about worst situation.

[RockECU]

It would be a QB that is a game-manager. Not going to make your team win on his own, but would be serviceable if you have a good enough team

Still not a very good definition. I would like to hear what kind of career QB rating you think an average QB has, comp. %, TD to int ratio, etc. "Game manager" is more in the eyes of the beholder than anything.

BTW - I mentioned Max Hall in my very first post. So, scratch that.

And just because you take a vote of the general fans doesn't mean you get a quality answer or the correct answer. You just draw from a larger sample of people who like to take part in polls but who have no clue about the question or the person. You see this in our political voting all the time.

EDIT: By the way, Clausen had some quality coaching while at ND. Or should have anyway. Something DA did not.