Worst Situation in the NFL

[TheRealDeal]

Still not a very good definition. I would like to hear what kind of career QB rating you think an average QB has, comp. %, TD to int ratio, etc. "Game manager" is more in the eyes of the beholder than anything.

BTW - I mentioned Max Hall in my very first post. So, scratch that.

And just because you take a vote of the general fans doesn't mean you get a quality answer or the correct answer. You just draw from a larger sample of people who like to take part in polls but who have no clue about the question or the person. You see this in our political voting all the time.

EDIT: By the way, Clausen had some quality coaching while at ND. Or should have anyway. Something DA did not.

To be fair, Mike Riley is one of the best college coaches in the country he just doesn't get a lot of credit because he is up there in Corvallis. They always play a tough schedule (#1 in the country this year) and knock off big teams year in and year out. He's offered jobs every year (USC this past season) but turns them down because he loves the town in Oregon. If you look over the past 7-10 years, Oregon State has the 2nd best record in the Pac10 behind only USC (best record if you actually take away those wins for the Bush thing) but no one talks about them.

Riley also spent time in the NFL and ran a pro style offense up until this year when they ran the fly sweep offense because of the Rodgers brothers.

[RockECU]

To be fair, Mike Riley is one of the best college coaches in the country he just doesn't get a lot of credit because he is up there in Corvallis. They always play a tough schedule (#1 in the country this year) and knock off big teams year in and year out. He's offered jobs every year (USC this past season) but turns them down because he loves the town in Oregon. If you look over the past 7-10 years, Oregon State has the 2nd best record in the Pac10 behind only USC (best record if you actually take away those wins for the Bush thing) but no one talks about them.

Riley also spent time in the NFL and ran a pro style offense up until this year when they ran the fly sweep offense because of the Rodgers brothers.

Still can't compare a guy who helped develop Tom Brady to a guy who's developed.... ..Derek Anderson?? Matt Moore??? haha

[TheRealDeal]

Still can't compare a guy who helped develop Tom Brady to a guy who's developed.... ..Derek Anderson?? Matt Moore??? haha

You said quality coaching, not the best QB coach ever. You said Clausen got quality coaching and DA didn't, which isn't true. I'm all about facts, even if it goes against my argument because I'm with you on this one.

[Carl Spackler]

Why are the Panthers not a choice for worst situation?