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CBA 2011 Thread

Anybodyhome

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mj4life Newbie

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Yup, we go through all this hell to "earn" the # 1 pick and then we have to use it in a watered-down draft because of the lockout...

it's something i've been saying for the last couple of weeks, many underclassmen may opt to stay in school with so many unknowns about how the next cba will affect them

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No new progress toward getting a deal done. Here are the main facts:

*Deadline is March 3

*No deal = lockout by owners

*Players can decertify from union to prevent a lockout

*Season ticket invoices for PSL owners due in April (usually around the same time as taxes due)

And the questions no one has asked that actually affects the paying customers is: Will the PSL owners be forced to pay for the 2011 season tickets...

1) if there is a lockout?

2) if the union decertifies?

3) if there is a lockout and the owners try to replace the players with scrubs (if they can)

My guess is yes, with a claim the organization will refund those monies only when it is absolutely certain that games will not be played. And these refunds will not be issued until Sept.

So the fans will be screwed more than they ever realized. All because of billionaires fighting with millions over how much money each side gets.

But J Richardson did say how important the fans are to him, and I'm one of the idiots fools who believe him. :rolleyes:

Jerry loves the fans, but he loves their money even more.

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The article also talks about how the players health insurance may be canceled by the league. A lot of the players are upset about that. My question is, with as much money as they are being paid, why do they not have their own health insurance? I can understand seeing the NFL doctors because if I played for an NFL team I would want to see the doctors that see injuries on a regular basis that pertain to my injuries. But is their health insurance that elite that they can't find a better deal somewhere else? Maybe it's mandatory that the NFL provide this to them. All I'm saying is if they are making millions, is it that big of a deal to be without insurance for a year?

It's not just for them, but their families as well. After all, health insurance

costs are already ridiculous and then factor in the 4 kids with different mothers from 3 different states....

Oh, I'm sorry, was I generalizing....?

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I think if they resolve this in march they will allow players to file for the draft late. However, Maurice is a resume-building thug who is not representing the best interests of the players because he is ignoring reality and trying to bully his way to an ideal (for him) solution. Common teamsters practice-nothing new. However, trucking is needed in this country and football is not. In addition, there is no shortage of labor, considering the large number of players who would play. If the league agreed to end negotiations permanently and go with an extended draft and replacements, it would only take 2 years to rebuild the talent base, considering the average NFL career is less than 4 years. After 1 year, most of the current players would cross the lines and return. You see, if a current player knows his career is 4 years, why would he hold out for 2 years? Principle? I root for the uniform first and become loyal to the players second. I only like Steve Smith because he wears silver, blue, and black. Yes, the quality will suffer, but only temporarily. We still watch college and high school football because we support teams.

If the NFL has agreed to expand the league, go to an 18 game schedule, increase rosters, change rules to protect players, then they are willing to allow the quality of play to suffer a bit. Maybe the league and owners want to clean house and start fresh. Maybe the league will use the opportunity to put teams in Canada and Europe (hope not Europe). The players can sit out on principle, but that doesn't pay the bills.

The key for the league is to divide the players by offering a scale that limits rookie contracts and caps franchise players' salaries. The benefit would be to the core of the team, the majority. Their salaries would increase across the board. No more Bradford contracts, no more Haynesworth contracts. Each team gets a salary scale/cap for a limited number of elite players, and rookies get a cap depending on the round selected. The salary saved would go to the remaining players. They would not vote against more money, and they consititute about 65% of every roster.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/05/collusion-case-could-be-coming-by-wednesday/

After weeks of huffing and puffing regarding a possible collusion case against the NFL, the players’ union could soon be trying to blow the league’s house down.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the long-expected collusion case could be filed by Wednesday, which is the deadline for filing a claim under the CBA.

Per Mort, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith is currently reviewing the case, which arises in part from the fact that only one of 216 restricted free agents changed teams this year.

The union is believed to be trying to apply pressure points to the NFL in the hopes of forcing the league to negotiate a new labor deal sooner rather than later, since a new labor deal likely would result in a resolution of all pending claims made by the union, including the collusion case (if filed) and the pending attack on the league’s broadcasting contracts.

Regardless of the outcome of the claims, these devices give the union access to information they otherwise wouldn’t have. And that’s another reason for the NFL to try to get a deal done.

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The players better take control of their own house asap.

the players hired smith to represent them. smith is doing what they as a group want him to do. his job is to get the best deal he can for them which hasn't happened yet, he knows he will have compromise on certain issues.

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It's not just for them, but their families as well. After all, health insurance

costs are already ridiculous and then factor in the 4 kids with different mothers from 3 different states....

Oh, I'm sorry, was I generalizing....?

Yeah I know it's for the families also but even still, with the money they are making, why is it a big deal to them to go without it for a year?

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