Something for the Marshall Haters to think about

[weyco2000]

Ok let me rephase. Marshall is best when he is allowed to jam. He isn't a zone CB.

In 2011 he won't be a Panther either, thank God!

[Urrymonster]

Marshall gets some flak doesn't he?!

Unfortunately most of it is fairly accurate.

He has given up 4 TDs this year whilst only intercepting two passes and breaking up a further 3. On top of this, passes aimed at him have a whopping 75% completion rate which is the worst % amongst himself, Gamble (60.9%) & Munnerlyn (48.6%). That 75% is 3rd worst amongst the 65 cornerbacks who have played at least 50% of their teams snaps.

QBs who target him are racking up a rating of 103.1, behind Gamble (91.5) and Munnerlyn (74.1). This is 13th worst amongst the same 65 cornerbacks. He also has committed 5 penalties, which leads all defensive players on our team.

He is great against the run though, picking up 54 tackles (having missed 10) and has 15 defensive stops to his name.

He just isn't playing like a starting calibre cornerback and in fact is being outplayed by many nickel backs across the league. He was better last year, but poor in 2008. I just think that he will never be a truly consistent performer and suffers from extreme lack of discipline. He might manage to muster a decent contract in the off season, but he certainly (based on his production thus far) is not worth it.

[Baschski]

Anyone knocking ANY of our corners for giving up a high completion percentage doesn't understand football. We play a zone defense that is designed to keep passes in front of the secondary and deny big plays. Our defensive philosophy is to give up shorter plays and not allow big plays over the top. For the most part it works pretty well, but it will give up a high completion percentage on shorter and intermediate passes.

[Baschski]

In 2011 he won't be a Panther either, thank God!

We'll be stuck with an aging Gamble, a midget Munnerlyn and no one worth a damn behind them.

Yes, Thank God!

[Urrymonster]

Anyone knocking ANY of our corners for giving up a high completion percentage doesn't understand football. We play a zone defense that is designed to keep passes in front of the secondary and deny big plays. Our defensive philosophy is to give up shorter plays and not allow big plays over the top. For the most part it works pretty well, but it will give up a high completion percentage on shorter and intermediate passes.

Hence why I compared him to the guys playing in our scheme.

[panthers55]

Hence why I compared him to the guys playing in our scheme.

Where did you get your stats. I am always looking for places to get info like that.

[run1stdownrun2nddown]

Marshall gets some flak doesn't he?!

Unfortunately most of it is fairly accurate.

He has given up 4 TDs this year whilst only intercepting two passes and breaking up a further 3. On top of this, passes aimed at him have a whopping 75% completion rate which is the worst % amongst himself, Gamble (60.9%) & Munnerlyn (48.6%). That 75% is 3rd worst amongst the 65 cornerbacks who have played at least 50% of their teams snaps.

QBs who target him are racking up a rating of 103.1, behind Gamble (91.5) and Munnerlyn (74.1). This is 13th worst amongst the same 65 cornerbacks. He also has committed 5 penalties, which leads all defensive players on our team.

He is great against the run though, picking up 54 tackles (having missed 10) and has 15 defensive stops to his name.

He just isn't playing like a starting calibre cornerback and in fact is being outplayed by many nickel backs across the league. He was better last year, but poor in 2008. I just think that he will never be a truly consistent performer and suffers from extreme lack of discipline. He might manage to muster a decent contract in the off season, but he certainly (based on his production thus far) is not worth it.

+1. This man knows what hes talking about. All four of those touchdowns have been complete nuts by Marshall, how could someone try to defend him as a top-quality player??

[Ohio]

Anyone knocking ANY of our corners for giving up a high completion percentage doesn't understand football. We play a zone defense that is designed to keep passes in front of the secondary and deny big plays. Our defensive philosophy is to give up shorter plays and not allow big plays over the top. For the most part it works pretty well, but it will give up a high completion percentage on shorter and intermediate passes.

So should are you happy with giving up 3tds to Hakeem Nicks?

[Baschski]

So should are you happy with giving up 3tds to Hakeem Nicks?

Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to get across.

[Ohio]

Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to get across.

hey you were the one who said you were happy...

[Baschski]

hey you were the one who said you were happy...

At no point did I say I was happy with giving up 3 td's. I was simply pointing out that completion percentage is a poor way of measuring our corners. I also never said Marshall was a great corner or didn't make mistakes. I do, however, think it would be in our best interest to re-sign him if he's willing to settle for less than he originally wanted.