Cam Newton????????

[C47]

Sad aint it dude?

How is it sad, the kids had numerous issues at multiple schools. What's sad is that people seem to look past all of the character concerns....

[King Taharqa]

How is it sad' date=' the kids had numerous issues at multiple schools. What's sad is that people seem to look past all of the character concerns....[/quote']

Numerous "issues" is pretty vague. Show me the mugshot. The NCAA said Cam is clean as a whistle. Are you saying the Heisman committee doesnt value "character"?

[Jaxel]

For you newton fans, a tweet by Darin Gantt..

daringantt

Probably so. Luck's a clear one, but Cam's making himself rich(er). RT @winkbox Say we slip to second pick, do they consider Newton?

[King Taharqa]

Carolina should've been considering Newton. He's clearly the best QB coming out. The fact they havent says it all. Cam Newton is gonna look good in a Bengals uniform.

[Jaxel]

Umm... he just said that if we don't get Luck they would consider him... what from what you just read did you get the idea that they weren't?

[King Taharqa]

Umm... he just said that if we don't get Luck they would consider him... what from what you just read did you get the idea that they weren't?

if we dont get Luck? It should be the other way around. If we dont get Cam, we should take a chance on Luck. Cam is the best QB coming out. Passing up on this guy would be a mistake.

[Jaxel]

No Luck is the better QB. Cam had 1 good season, but you still have questions about whether he is a great passer or not. Luck = more proven, more games, better passer. I know you have a love affair with black qb's, but sometimes you need to take off the rose-colored glasses.

[jpniner]

Luck much smarter QB(football and academic), with a strong worth ethic with a dad who was a pro-QB. This is a no-brainer.

Newton is raw talent, doesn't seem to well grounded and humble which can lead to a disaster at this position in paticular.

[King Taharqa]

No Luck is the better QB. Cam had 1 good season, but you still have questions about whether he is a great passer or not. Luck = more proven, more games, better passer. I know you have a love affair with black qb's, but sometimes you need to take off the rose-colored glasses.

Luck isnt more proven. He's already lost to Oregon. Cam is 13-0 and is about to win the Heisman. The only case I hear being made for Luck is the scouts have him rated highly and he's the next Peyton. Dude hasnt even won a bowl game, and he's already being called the best QB prospect in years? I'm not sold. I just saw Cam dominate the SEC all season and put up perhaps the best QB performance ever in the SEC title game. I dont know what else a QB in his position can do to make the case that no one else is better. If Luck is so good, why isnt he gonna win the Heisman?

[King Taharqa]

Luck much smarter QB(football and academic), with a strong worth ethic with a dad who was a pro-QB. This is a no-brainer..

Sounds alot like what people said about Clausen last season.

[Cat'sGrowl]

Luck isnt more proven. He's already lost to Oregon. Cam is 13-0 and is about to win the Heisman. The only case I hear being made for Luck is the scouts have him rated highly and he's the next Peyton. Dude hasnt even won a bowl game, and he's already being called the best QB prospect in years? I'm not sold. I just saw Cam dominate the SEC all season and put up perhaps the best QB performance ever in the SEC title game. I dont know what else a QB in his position can do to make the case that no one else is better. If Luck is so good, why isnt he gonna win the Heisman?

[Seamonk]

Luck's been a 2 year starter. Newton is a Junior and starting for the first time this year.

Secondly, Newton demolished USC with 5 total TDs the first time they played.. He got 6 this time, the only difference is USC got out of it earlier.

What bothers me is his completion percentage. It's high.. a little too high. As in his ability to run causes people to be wide open down field high. But too high for the INTs he's made in the same games.

Another thing is the number of rushes per game. He's rushed over 20 times a game several times. That means he's using himself in the play action. I've noticed a couple times that when he has a pocket, he'll fake like he's gonna run a QB draw, then step back and hit a wide open receiver as a result. That means his passing ability is directly proportional to his running ability.

Let's look at the stats. The only times he's been limited to under 4 yards a pop with a minimum of 10 rush attempts.

Mississippi St (3.9)

Clemson (4.0)

Alabama (1.8)

Beat Mississippi St by 3, Clemson by 3 and Alabama by 1. He had 1 INT against Miss St, 2 against Clemson and surprisingly 0 against Alabama which is tied for most INTs in the NCAA. Alabama could have won that game (Fumbled a ball into the endzone for a Touchback) and would have won had they not stumbled. Clearly, to beat Auburn, or at least come close to it, You have to stop Cam Newton from running first and the pass second. Now those are his college stats. You've got a full season of body work on him. Is he worth the #1 pick in the draft with 1 season under him. Is that enough film to take him #1 overall? Have you been able to see an improvement through the season? Unstoppable one year, doesn't mean unstoppable the next. Ask The Golden Calf of Bristol that.

There's no question that Cam Newton is the best player in college football right now. He'll win the Heisman no question. But his tendencies and his body of work don't translate over to the NFL really well. Especially since the NFL has had time to prepare with his predecessors. I just wouldn't trust him with the #1 overall. Will it happen? Possibly, depends more on our new coaching staff. Will I support it? Certainly.

The difference between Cam Newton and Andrew Luck is.. Cam Newton has 20 rushing touchdowns, and one less interception. The Passing Touchdowns are the same. As a passer, as a QB. You have to take Andrew Luck. He's matched Cam Newton's passing production with a pro style offense. This is because, chances are, in the NFL, you don't want your QB to be running 20 times a game. All it takes is one hit.

[Catalyst]

I like Newton, but yeah, Luck is the better NFL prospect. He's practically the prototypical modern NFL franchise QB. Not that it guarantees anything, but you can say that with any pick.

And I also think Auburn is a better overall team than Stanford. You have to factor that into wins/losses. I haven't heard of a single Stanford player other than Luck who is expected to be a high draft pick.

[dormie7]

>If Luck is so good, why isnt he gonna win the Heisman?

Come on now. Everyone knows that in order to win the Heisman, you have to be the best player on a team playing for the title. Seriously, has anyone won it without playing in the NC since say, 2000? I cant think of one.

Dont get me wrong, Cam is a GREAT collegiate player, but keep in mind hes also a GREAT cash cow for the SEC, the BCS, and the NCAA. Of course they want you to think hes the second coming... but none of that means a thing on the field in the NFL. Im not saying he wont have any success in the NFL, Im saying that recent history has shown that even the most illustrious collegiate resume does not necessarily translate into success in the NFL