Williams wants to stay in Carolina

[kdrh5]

We must do everything in our power to overpay a player thats finished the year on IR the past two years and has his replacement on the roster. Fans are silly.

[jtm]

Trying to be like the patriots is a mistake? What in the world are you talking about?

Trying to be like the Patriots when we are not the Patriots is a big mistake. They have one of the top organizations EVER. Yes, we should strive to be like that, but we are far from it. Belichick is one of the greatest coaches of all time. No one ever has been able to recognize talent like him. In order to win you have to be able to accept your weaknesses. Trying to trade players like Belichick, would be a big mistake because he is probably one of the few, if not only person that knows how to do this.

I like the Steelers mentality. Invest in franchise players and take care of them. Build you team around them through the draft. As a result, their players are loyal and want to be there so they are not every year worried about resigning players b/c their players want to stay there. People on this site would have released Hines Ward years ago.

[Panthro]

I like the Steelers mentality. Invest in franchise players and take care of them. Build you team around them through the draft. As a result, their players are loyal and want to be there so they are not every year worried about resigning players b/c their players want to stay there. People on this site would have released Hines Ward years ago.

psssssst, hey, um just a heads up, the steelers wouldnt resign him.

[kdrh5]

Lol

[jtm]

We must do everything in our power to overpay a player thats finished the year on IR the past two years and has his replacement on the roster. Fans are silly.

You do realize we are a run first team. If our next coach wants to continue this philosophy, then yes we should pay him. If we become the Colts, then we will probably be fine with Goodson and Stewart because we will throw the ball a gazillion times.

For the record, I did not have any issue with a lot of the players that we let go in the past year. At the end of the day a player is worth what the market demands. I can assure you the market will pay DWill $6 million a year. How is this overpaying him? $6 million a year isn't even a top contract. It is a top 10 contract. So now you don't think DWill is a top 10 running back?

[kdrh5]

oh man, if one of your franchise players is a RB you have a poorly run franchise

try arguing the points I actually made instead of putting words in my mouth

And your little paragraph about the Steelers philosophy totally goes against your point of resigning a replaceable player and contradicts your entire argument, BTW

[davos]

We must do everything in our power to overpay a player thats finished the year on IR the past two years and has his replacement on the roster. Fans are silly.

I'm not trying to defend jtm...but

It'd be nice to resign him if its not too steep of a cost. Like I said, its a win-win scenario if we can do this. Stewarts under contract to 2013, Sutton & Goodson are playing well, I see no problem here. If a team is willing to give us good compensation for Stewart, take it. But objective 1, re-sign Williams because regardless if you want to trade him or keep him, he needs to be tagged or re-signed to get compensation. Plus, his IR this year was from a 2-3 week injury, if anything he's rested and fresher than ever.

I'm just trying to stay positive here

[jtm]

psssssst, hey, um just a heads up, the steelers wouldnt resign him.

Of course they wouldn't have. They signed a 33 year old Hines Ward to a $5 million contract so he could finish his days as a Steeler.

[Panthro]

So now you don't think DWill is a top 10 running back?

Right now? Nope.

Arian Foster is having a 2008 DeAngelo Williams year. Is he a Top 5 back?

Question for you, jtm. What RB's in the NFL would you rather have right now over DWill?

[kdrh5]

The Steelers let go of guys like Porter, Burris, Randle-El, Holmes, etc and are fine

[jtm]

oh man, if one of your franchise players is a RB you have a poorly run franchise

And try arguing the points I actually made instead of putting words in my mouth

Your points don't make any sense. All you have said is we should be like the Patriots and DWill is going to get overpaid. I came back and said we are not the Patriots and how is paying a RB what the market will bear overpaying him?

[Panthro]

Of course they wouldn't have. They signed a 33 year old Hines Ward to a $5 million contract so he could finish his days as a Steeler.

So Hines Ward is to the Steelers as Deangelo Williams is to the Panthers?Really? Really???

I don't see it. Maybe Steve Smith or Kasay. That's it on our current roster.

[Mr. Scot]

I believe he does want to stay here.

But in fairness, just about all of the potential free agents out there say this or something similar about their current team.

[jtm]

Right now? Nope.

Arian Foster is having a 2008 DeAngelo Williams year. Is he a Top 5 back?

Question for you, jtm. What RB's in the NFL would you rather have right now over DWill?

Everyone is missing my point. To answer your question, no Arian Foster is not a top 5 back, neither is Hillis. If they have another year in 2011, then they would qualify for the discussion. My issue is people anointing Goodson after only a couple games as a very good RB.