Williams wants to stay in Carolina

[pantherclaw]

If you read the prior 10 pages of posts you would see this had been debated at length. I stand corrected, Goodson is proven after 2 good games and one decent. Again, if you read the prior 10 pages people are not talking about his return skills, they are talking about him as a running back. He is about as proven as Matt Moore was at the end of last season. I am pulling for Goodson and I hope he turns out to be an elite back. However, I am not so quick to anoint as many do on this site after a couple games.

It is sad that this forum has turned into a bash site. It use to be all about Panther football now people just want to get others riled up.

Glad you feel I should have to read the entired thread before responding to a perticular post.

If ya post out of your ass, you should be prepared for a response.but if you think that was bashing....I don't give a fug. I posted a response that was at least factual, and you call it bashing.

[pantherclaw]

A cut back is NOT necessarily a designed play. What you described is a misdirection play.

"A cutback in football generally refers to a move a running back makes when a run play is designed to go one way but the back sees opportunity for gain elsewhere. Certain plays are designed to create this type of opportunity, particularly those where the offensive linemen zone block (step in the same direction initially, blocking the first defender), or during a stretch play."

So, it is you that wants to sound like ya know something.....make sure you know what the f**k you are talking about before correcting another poster.

Not necessarily...yet I don't know poo? Your splitting hairs just cause ya didn't like my response. Yes, a cut back is also a move....but it is also as I described it, and its in your quote, worded differently. So thank you for proving that the origional poster was talking out of his ass.

[jtm]

Not necessarily...yet I don't know poo? Your splitting hairs just cause ya didn't like my response. Yes, a cut back is also a move....but it is also as I described it, and its in your quote, worded differently. So thank you for proving that the origional poster was talking out of his ass.

LOL. You are the one that tried to split hairs and call someone out and in doing so didn't know what you were talking about. I wish I had the link from the Williams interview after one of the first couple games where he talked about the cut back and it was the only thing open.

[pantherclaw]

Jtm, no one is asking you to anoint goodson the next great panther rb.

Just don't understand why ya build up williams to be more than he really is, and refuse to admit we have other good backs already on the team that are capable.

[ECUPantherFan]

I personally think DeAngelo and Goodson give us our best chance to win. But ONLY if we can either get our OL healthy or make some upgrades to it. Stewart has been a great player and valuable since we've gotten him, but his durability is an issue and he could be an attractive option as trade bait.

[jtm]

Jtm, no one is asking you to anoint goodson the next great panther rb.

Just don't understand why ya build up williams to be more than he really is, and refuse to admit we have other good backs already on the team that are capable.

Again, if you read any of the 20 or so posts I have made in this thread you would understand where I am coming from. I never said Goodson was not a good back. I also never said Stewart was not a good back. Instead, I simply said Goodson has not proven himself after only a couple games that he is starter material in the NFL. I also said Stewart (and I am a big Stewart fan) is injury prone and would concern me if he was our primary back. I then made an example to Marion Barber and stated that Williams and Stewart feed off each other and are a great duo. Probably one of the best if not the best in the NFL when they actually have some holes to run through.

Why you would break that up especially considering top running back money is nothing compared to other positions. I even provided a concise reminder of the type of team member Williams is by embracing Stewart when we drafted him and not acting like 99% of the other players in the NFL would have acted in the same situation.

Then you came in and tried to say I was talking out of my azz and you are yet to offer anything insightful at all.

[pantherclaw]

LOL. You are the one that tried to split hairs and call someone out and in doing so didn't know what you were talking about. I wish I had the link from the Williams interview after one of the first couple games where he talked about the cut back and it was the only thing open.

Why need the link? I'm not arguing about no cutback.

All our runners are actually very good at cut back running. Stewart can't change direction like williams and goodson, but that doesn't mean he isn't a good cutback runner.

Glad ya feel the need to keep arguing...my response must have really gotten under you thin skin.

[jtm]

Why need the link? I'm not arguing about no cutback.

All our runners are actually very good at cut back running. Stewart can't change direction like williams and goodson, but that doesn't mean he isn't a good cutback runner.

Glad ya feel the need to keep arguing...my response must have really gotten under you thin skin.

Didn't get under my skin but it gets old when people come in and start bashing people for no apparent reason. I am over it and over this thread. Onto greener pastures...

I just wish they would turn this into a pay site or maybe there is a pay site somewhere else. I love this site but the nonsense bashing is getting old.

[pantherclaw]

You have proven you don't read my posts.

I responded to you..but cause you have thin skin, and want to bash me, (and you called me the basher..lol). Means you can't read my posts properly before responding?

Once again, how can you be concerned about stewarts health and not williams, despite the fact that williams has more injuries, and has missed more time in the nfl than stewart has?

I also stated I want williams here, yet you continue to talk like you didn't even read that.

I'm done with your immature, ignorant ass.

[Fox007]

Hmm Face of the Franchise RB's

Jerome Bettis

Steven Jackson

Adrian Peterson

Peyton Hillis (as of right now)

Barry Sanders

Chris Johnson

MJD (arguably)

Many people even like Emmit Smith as the face of that dynasty over Aikman.

And meh that's without even trying or looking anything up.

[MadHatter]

Not necessarily...yet I don't know poo? Your splitting hairs just cause ya didn't like my response. Yes, a cut back is also a move....but it is also as I described it, and its in your quote, worded differently. So thank you for proving that the origional poster was talking out of his ass.

I am just messing with you.....been a boring day in the office.

[Jrock3016]

Hmm Face of the Franchise RB's

Jerome Bettis

Steven Jackson

Adrian Peterson

Peyton Hillis (as of right now)

Barry Sanders

Chris Johnson

MJD (arguably)

Many people even like Emmit Smith as the face of that dynasty over Aikman.

And meh that's without even trying or looking anything up.

Not tryin to argue or anything but its funny that off the top of my head, non of them won championships. Except for Bettis which came after Roethlisberger (one of the Steeler's current franchise players) was drafted. And Aikman was their franchise qb. Emmit won 0 without Aikman and Irving.

[Fox007]

Not tryin to argue or anything but its funny that off the top of my head, non of them won championships. Except for Bettis which came after Roethlisberger (one of the Steeler's current franchise players) was drafted. And Aikman was their franchise qb. Emmit won 0 without Aikman and Irving.

There is no rule that says face of the franchise players must win a SB to be a face of that franchise. See Marino/Kelly.

Also go ask some Steelers fans who the face of their franchise is right now.

It sure ain't Rapistberger.

Point is RB's can, are, and have been the face of teams around the league.

And there is nothing wrong with that really, and it certainly doesn't mean to get rid of them in their prime.

[Jrock3016]

There is no rule that says face of the franchise players must win a SB to be a face of that franchise. See Marino/Kelly.

Also go ask some Steelers fans who the face of their franchise is right now.

It sure ain't Rapistberger.

Point is RB's can, are, and have been the face of teams around the league.

And there is nothing wrong with that really, and it certainly doesn't mean to get rid of them in their prime.

I never said there was a rule, I made a factual statement about teams whom you said their franchise players was the RB. The league defines success of a team by the number of championships they bring in and go to. Then you turn around and name two QBs who did not win a championship...It happens sometimes. But see..Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Bret Farve, John Elway, Joe Montana, Steve Young, and the list goes on and on and on.

Next, Roethisberger or what ever name you want to call him is going to have mixed views now. Well what about during the time that I'm speaking of. Plus who cares what their fans think. Like we actually get to choose who our franchise player is.