Panthers sign a... basketball player

[PNW_PantherMan]

4 hours ago, CanadianCat said:

I mean drafting at the best of times is a crap shoot. The entire NFL is not good at it (AKA Brock Purdy).

Also we (the Huddle collective) always think we know better. When we drafted "Mrs Rhules" pick, AKA Chuba, the entire collective here thought it was a terrible pick. 

 

Can't speak for everyone, but the issue wasn't with the pick itself.  It was the fact that our coach let his wife use our 4th round pick.  Chuba was also really bad as a rookie, but ended up improving tremendously from year 2 to present.

Over time it's morphed in meaning because now one of the only Rhule picks that actually hit was made by his wife.

[PanthersGTI]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6263121/2025/04/08/panthers-basketball-tight-end-signing-colin-granger/

 

Article about him and the process. I just started reading it. 

[Jon Snow]

13 minutes ago, PanthersGTI said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6263121/2025/04/08/panthers-basketball-tight-end-signing-colin-granger/

 

Article about him and the process. I just started reading it. 

I'm rooting for him. The odds are against him but I love an underdog story. 

[CanadianCat]

12 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

We (the draftniks on this board) have absolutely been better than the GMs/scouts from 2018-2024. I’m sorry again but if you’ve actually followed the draft discussions, it’s been 100% true.

Yeah, ok... So if you are so brilliant then why don't you show your scouting reports to teams and get an actual NFL job.. 

SMH I get so tired of people saying they are smarter than people who hold actual jobs in this industry but just choose to be a small team market internet scout. Come on dude. 

Also I get how you can say that you would have drafted another player over someone like Brooks. Sure thats a simple argument that one can make without being employed. But your missing all the conversations that lead to that being the pick and why. Picking players in a bubble is not the same as picking it on a team where you have differing scouting reports and feed back from different coaches about how they could be used vs other players with similar grades and those other players could be used. Then put on top of all of that what the team strategy is for the season. 

Picking players in a bubble is not the same as picking it on a team.

[CanadianCat]

1 minute ago, CanadianCat said:

Yeah, ok... So if you are so brilliant then why don't you show your scouting reports to teams and get an actual NFL job.. 

Here you go, I did the research for you. Go earn yourself $500,00+ just submit your resume. 

• Entry-Level Scouts: Typically, entry-level NFL scouts can earn between $20,000 to $95,000 per year. These positions are usually reserved for scouting assistants or regional scouts who are just starting out.
• Mid-Level Scouts: With a few years of experience, scouts can earn between $95,000 to $275,000 per year. These scouts may have more responsibilities, such as covering specific regions or handling advanced football analytics.
• Top-Level Scouts or Directors of Scouting: Experienced scouts in senior positions can make anywhere from $275,000 to $500,000+ annually. Directors of scouting or player personnel have higher salaries, sometimes approaching seven figures.

[WhoKnows]

30 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

Yeah, ok... So if you are so brilliant then why don't you show your scouting reports to teams and get an actual NFL job.. 

SMH I get so tired of people saying they are smarter than people who hold actual jobs in this industry but just choose to be a small team market internet scout. Come on dude. 

Also I get how you can say that you would have drafted another player over someone like Brooks. Sure thats a simple argument that one can make without being employed. But your missing all the conversations that lead to that being the pick and why. Picking players in a bubble is not the same as picking it on a team where you have differing scouting reports and feed back from different coaches about how they could be used vs other players with similar grades and those other players could be used. Then put on top of all of that what the team strategy is for the season. 

Picking players in a bubble is not the same as picking it on a team.

Just admit that you don’t follow all the draft discussions on here. If draft results were so random, how come some teams tend to be perennial losers like us and some teams are perennial winners and it all starts with the draft?

It’s almost comical these type of stupid responses. Oh, why aren’t you the GM? Gee I wonder since I work in a completely different field.

How about you give us some examples of where the huddle consensus drafting was worse than our drafting from 2018 to 2025? I know I’ve given a ton of examples and you just shoot this generic poo of oh you couldn’t possibly done better as an armchair GM. Why don’t you dispute any of my examples?

Let’s go to Brooks. I wanted Frazier at C because I still feel like that’s a hole. Other Huddlers mentioned DeJean at CB. Here’s why many of us didn’t want Brooks because 1) he might not play due to tearing his ACL late in the college season, 2) any scout/GM worth their salt would know that the 2025 RB draft class was loaded and 3) trading up multiple picks knowing 1 and 2 seems silly. Heck, after the draft, pretty clear that day 3 was where the RB value was.

The huddle was right on Brooks and at most, we’ll get 2 years of Brooks while Hubbard is still under contract.

If you know so much about the underlying machinations of the draft, you should be able to dispute the actual examples and how the huddle’s picks were just plain lucky and how Dan, Scott and Marty’s picks were just unlucky. Pulling the why aren’t you an NFL GM is a much repeated response when an actual reasoned response isn’t possible. Our drafting hasn’t been unlucky the past 7 drafts, it’s just been bad with lost of idiotic moves that were far worse than the huddle consensus.

[Mr. Scot]

On 4/7/2025 at 1:53 PM, 45catfan said:

Nah guys, we are FINE at TE.  Dragging dudes off the streets with zero football experience.  Mud, meet wall. Crap, at least find some D-II TE to develop.  Full panic mode now that THE Ian Thomas has left the building.  

The team is too inundated--100% full concentration---on which 'square peg' situational pass rusher we are going to trying to force into a 'round hole' on this team at pick #8.

Morgan: 'Hey, just go find some really tall guy to play TE while we do important work over here on Edge guys.'

Scout: 'How much football background does he need?'

Morgan: 'Who cares? We have all these pass rushers we have to sort through.'

*Some time later*

Scout: 'Hey Dan, I found some dude nearly 7 foot tall playing rec ball down at the YMCA.'

Morgan: 'Cool, how many years did he start at TE in college?'

Scout: 'None, he's never played TE or football...ever--but, but, you said you didn't care about that?'

Morgan: 'Honestly I don't...let's give him a minimum deal; and for crying out loud let me get back to the slew of pass rushers that all have holes in their game!'

I wouldn't call this "desperate". "Experimental" is probably the better word.

Heck, even if you call it a gamble, it's one that's extremely low risk.

[Panfan35]

Surprised to see he is on par with Greg Olsen short shuttle and 3 cone drills slightly better on short shuttle 

 

Greg Olsen Ss 4.48 3 cone 7.04

Granger  ss 4.29 3 cone 7.25

this tell me he has very good short area quickness at 6-8 240 might be a good chance he works out

[TheSpecialJuan]

5 hours ago, PanthersGTI said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6263121/2025/04/08/panthers-basketball-tight-end-signing-colin-granger/

 

Article about him and the process. I just started reading it. 

One of Joe Person's better articles. 

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

One of Joe Person's better articles. 

Are you kidding? Joe didn't write that AI wrote it for him.

[CanadianCat]

9 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

It’s almost comical these type of stupid responses. Oh, why aren’t you the GM? Gee I wonder since I work in a completely different field.

All I hear in this is you dont have enough confidence to change careers..

Like I posted, if you know better than the current scouts, change jobs and make a bag. Im sure you could teach Dan Morgan a thing or two about linebacker play. 

[Swaggasaurus]

10 hours ago, CanadianCat said:

Here you go, I did the research for you. Go earn yourself $500,00+ just submit your resume. 

• Entry-Level Scouts: Typically, entry-level NFL scouts can earn between $20,000 to $95,000 per year. These positions are usually reserved for scouting assistants or regional scouts who are just starting out.
• Mid-Level Scouts: With a few years of experience, scouts can earn between $95,000 to $275,000 per year. These scouts may have more responsibilities, such as covering specific regions or handling advanced football analytics.
• Top-Level Scouts or Directors of Scouting: Experienced scouts in senior positions can make anywhere from $275,000 to $500,000+ annually. Directors of scouting or player personnel have higher salaries, sometimes approaching seven figures.

20-95k is quite the difference. These folks out here scouting can only afford a Corolla and Burger King 2 for 5. Ain’t no wonder so many busts get drafted. 

[Mr. Scot]

On 4/8/2025 at 9:21 AM, PNW_PantherMan said:

Plot twist:  Its the WWE hall of fame.

We already have a former Panther trying for that dream...

[45catfan]

10 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I wouldn't call this "desperate". "Experimental" is probably the better word.

Heck, even if you call it a gamble, it's one that's extremely low risk.

Sure it's low risk, but zero reward.  Heck, I'm happy for the guy he gets to put on a NFL uniform and make in a few weeks more than he would all year at a 9-5.  My point is while yes, this is bottom roster, could they not find a better experiment, like a dude that actually played college football?  Surely, there's a D-II or D-III TE that's north of 6'6''.  I mean, let's be realistic, they signed this guy for his height so he can "Moss" DBs.