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Do we need to worry about #2 WR


Zod

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Some might find it logical for the Panthers to continue to try and improve the offense and make it as good as possible. My only problem with this line of thinking is the 99-01 seasons. The Panthers had a good offense during that time but the defense just sucked and of course ultimantly ended the Sifert era with a 1-15 season. Even teams that that have success with a high power offense like Arizona and Indy have to have some type of successful defense in order to compete on a week to week basis.

Right now this team is all about the running game and Moose and Smith are perfect in that they are/can be play makers but also are great in supporting the run. Having a TJ H. or any other type of high profile WR either through FA or the draft would only hurt this offense unless they can contribute to the running game as well as Moose and Smith do.

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Late joining this thread but I'll throw in my two cents before I get to it, as it's an important topic to me...

Most people say we are fine at WR and I can understand your thoughts about that. I feel, however, that Moose is slowing down and hell...he still drops balls. I'd like to see him move to the #3 slot and become a Proehl type receiver. Hackett will more than likely be cut and Jarrett for whatever reason still isn't ready and may never be. Sure, the coaching staff may have used him wrong again...but that's two years now he still hasn't played regularly. Making him a #2 could be dangerous.

This draft features an amazing WR class. It may be foolish not to try and get one. There are also two solid WRs in FA (Housh, Bryant). If Pep leaves, and we cut Lucas and Hackett and Jones, we'll have money for one and can sign them to a two-year at the most since the two are getting older. Housh is better than Moose and you can't argue that. I think having a kick ass #1 and #2 to go along with Double Trouble would be beyond great.

Everything else we do in FA and the draft should focus on the D though. But I just think there are too many good WRs out there and Moose isn't getting any younger...and did I mention he still drops balls?

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The problem with our WR core is that only one guy is going to beat you deep, and we all know who that is. At least when we had Drew Carter there was a chance he could run a deep route with success, but we all know Moose won't be catching any deep passes unless they go right through a New York Giants hands.

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Late joining this thread but I'll throw in my two cents before I get to it, as it's an important topic to me...

Most people say we are fine at WR and I can understand your thoughts about that. I feel, however, that Moose is slowing down and hell...he still drops balls. I'd like to see him move to the #3 slot and become a Proehl type receiver. Hackett will more than likely be cute and Jarrett for whatever reason still isn't ready and may never be. Sure, the coaching staff may have used him wrong again...but that's two years now he still hasn't played regularly. Making him a #2 could be dangerous.

This draft features an amazing WR class. It may be foolish not to try and get one. There are also two solid WRs in FA (Housh, Bryant). If Pep leaves, and we cut Lucas and Hackett and Jones, we'll have money for one and can sign them to a two-year at the most since they two are getting older. Housh is better than Moose and you can't argue that. I think having a kick ass #1 and #2 to go along with Double Trouble would be beyond great.

Everything else we do in FA and the draft should focus on the D though. But I just think there are too many good WRs out there and Moose isn't getting any younger...and did I mention he still drops balls?

I see your point but I still say that Housh could make this offense worse because he is not known at all for his blocking in the running game.

IMO the perfect WR to match with Smith would be Hines Ward but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Honestly there aren't that many good WR that are also that good in blocking as well. Usually one or the other. Moose may be old and has drops from time to time but still a better option considering the running game. And moving him to the #3 role a la Prohle would take him out of the game too much to still be a factor in the running game.

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Honestly, Z, there are so many other things to really worry about, why worry about the #2 WR?

Moose is more than capable. Jarrett, regardless of what you say, appears to be capable. Lastly, we can always pick up a talent in the later rounds (like perhaps, Mohamed Massaquoi of UGA:D).

To me it seems that the biggest problems with the WRs are the coaches who won't get them into the flow of the game and/or QBS who won't cycle through their options (i.e., check their receivers) when on the field of battle.

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Of course, if Boldin or O-Cinco were to become options, it would be a little tantalizing.

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I would rather concentrate on other positions in free agency. With Smith at 1, Moose a strong 2, and Robinson, Carter, Jarrett, and Jones fighting for the next 2 spots we should be fine. Plus we will be able to draft another one and pick up a few unrestricted free agents. So we should have plenty of talent next year. Two guys who would have contributed this year, Robinson and Carter, were on IR.

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Honestly, Z, there are so many other things to really worry about, why worry about the #2 WR?

Moose is more than capable. Jarrett, regardless of what you say, appears to be capable. Lastly, we can always pick up a talent in the later rounds (like perhaps, Mohamed Massaquoi of UGA:D).

To me it seems that the biggest problems with the WRs are the coaches who won't get them into the flow of the game and/or QBS who won't cycle through their options (i.e., check their receivers) when on the field of battle.

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Of course, if Boldin or O-Cinco were to become options, it would be a little tantalizing.

Could Williamson have reached the point of not being effective anymore? The guy has been at the same coaching position, on the same team since 1995. I know that through the years he has been great with developing young talent but here of late he really hasn't been able to get any of the young recievers to produce. Or maybe thats more on Jake than Williamson?

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Jarrett wasn't in most of the time. When he was, he came up with some big 3rd down receptions throughout the season.

I hope, and feel, he'll improve even more this off-season. I think one more year with Moose to see if Jarrett comes into his own is well worth holding off. Which I would expect the team to do.

However, I won't be mad if they bring in another really good receiver. I'm not so sure we will be seeing that. Hopefully through the draft we can pick up someone..

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There's no way this is a priority. Moose has time left, Jarrett has two years on contract.

Remember, Keary Colbert would've sat all of 2004 if Smith hadn't gotten hurt. Jarrett sat almost all of 2007 because of how we activate WRs. Even if we did activate 5, which there's not usually a reason to do so, our 3rd WRs (who split time) finished 6th and 7th in receptions, behind two WRs, a RB, and two TE. So we're going to put a pick, a lot of effort, and money into a guy who might get 15 receptions?

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