Clausen vs Luck vs Young... who would you want??

[theyhateme45]

I think most of you are talking "either or" most of the time and I am talking both. First you have to decide if Clausen is the guy or not. If he is the guy then you need a veteran who can actually show him the ropes by playing and demonstrating what to do, not sit on the sidelines and hold a clip board.

If you decide that Clausen is not the guy and want to bring in another guy you have to decide who that would be. Would it be Luck, Locker, Mallett, Newton or someone else. I don't know that just picking Luck is as clear cut as many people on here make it. Frankly I have seen him play several games and I am not convinced he is that great. But then again I am no pro scout so what do I know???

But I think you have someone you think is the franchise quarterback (whether he is on the team already or not) as well as bring in someone like Fitzpatrick who is a veteran capable of playing and doing so at a high level.

Your comment was could we win a SB with a Ryan Fitzpatrick?? The history of the Super Bowl says actually we could if we took our top picks and parlayed them into defensive line picks and a shutdown corner given what we already have on the team.

Do I want to pull the trigger on a franchise quarterback this year given this is the first time we will pick in the top 5 since we got Peppers in 2002. Yeah I think I would. But I would rather have too many quarterback choices instead of too few.

Understandable, I see where you're coming from now.... I would agree that if we do draft a Luck we could/should still sign a capable vet FA.

[Snake]

you're under the impression that those wanting luck drafted here don't want to get a vet QB here. i know i do...we need one on the sidelines that has a lot of playing time and that is smart.

also, i don't want to keep clausen around if we draft luck. he would need to be traded off. the QB plan wouldn't get us younger.

if we can get luck....we need to. the advantages to getting him far outweigh the advantages of keeping clausen and going another direction in the draft.

I say we keep Clausen and get a Vet QB as well. Not a strong class of FA QBs coming out and if we Draft Luck and he goes down or just dose not work out we have a back up plan.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Andrew Luck is not worth a 1st overall pick. He is not even the best quarterback in the NCAA, so why waste that pick. Maybe trade down and take him with the 6th overall pick or something like that but no QB is worth the # 1 overall draft pick in this years class.

[Munkey]

All I know is Clausen isn't the answer. Just something about his throwing style and mechanics that I can't see being fixed.

[theyhateme45]

But guys like Vick show that a running quarterback is still a weapon in the league. Now consider a guy who is as big as Roethlisberger, has a good arm and is accurate, and can run as fast as most running backs, and then you have Cam Newton. We are talking a 6'6" 250 lb guy with a great arm who actually has a good work ethic.

We probably won't consider him given the recruiting issues and the burglary charges at Florida which were diverted and dropped.

But honestly he has just as much a chance of being a great quarterback in the NFL.

He is big Ben with speed.

If he is big ben with speed, then you are right.

I think Vick is becoming more of a threat because he is playing smart football... looking down field, going thru progressions and being deadly accurate with a lot of down field passes... then you mix in his legs and you have an ultimate weapon.

I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I haven;t seen that from Cam... it could be because he hasn't had too read complex coverages or make take throws down field. I don't see him being as good as a passer as Big ben, but I could be wrong.

[SmootsDaddy89]

I'd only want Luck if Harbaugh comes first.

[theyhateme45]

Andrew Luck is not worth a 1st overall pick. He is not even the best quarterback in the NCAA, so why waste that pick. Maybe trade down and take him with the 6th overall pick or something like that but no QB is worth the # 1 overall draft pick in this years class.

The depth of the QB class doesn;t matter if the #1 QB is a stud and the rest suck. If we have the #1 pick only the top QB is relavent to us if eveyone else sucks.

[rayzor]

But guys like Vick show that a running quarterback is still a weapon in the league. Now consider a guy who is as big as Roethlisberger, has a good arm and is accurate, and can run as fast as most running backs, and then you have Cam Newton. We are talking a 6'6" 250 lb guy with a great arm who actually has a good work ethic.

We probably won't consider him given the recruiting issues and the burglary charges at Florida which were diverted and dropped.

But honestly he has just as much a chance of being a great quarterback in the NFL.

He is big Ben with speed.

yeah, i have been saying cam is a much more mobile big ben for a while now. i love watching his play action. the dude does it as good, if not better than anyone out there, imo.

if we don't get luck, then trading down to get cam would be a good idea to me. wouldn't happen, but i still approve of that. cam is the only QB prospect not named andrew luck this year i would want to draft.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

If he is big ben with speed, then you are right.

I think Vick is becoming more of a threat because he is playing smart football... looking down field, going thru progressions and being deadly accurate with a lot of down field passes... then you mix in his legs and you have an ultimate weapon.

I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I haven;t seen that from Cam... it could be because he hasn't had too read complex coverages or make take throws down field. I don't see him being as good as a passer as Big ben, but I could be wrong.

[rayzor]

Andrew Luck is not worth a 1st overall pick. He is not even the best quarterback in the NCAA, so why waste that pick. Maybe trade down and take him with the 6th overall pick or something like that but no QB is worth the # 1 overall draft pick in this years class.

you are going to find very few knowledgable people who would agree with that. good luck finding any.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

The depth of the QB class doesn;t matter if the #1 QB is a stud and the rest suck. If we have the #1 pick only the top QB is relavent to us if eveyone else sucks.

If he is not worth a number one pick then don't waste that pick. Number one pick's don't come around that often, so if there is not a player worth that pick than get something bigger in exchange for it.

Now as far as Cam Newton goes... Cam Newton is no doubt the only Quarterback that I have confidence in. He is a mix between Big Ben, Flacco, and Vick. You may not have personally seen Cam play but he has a rocket and in my personal opinion is a better quarterback than Luck, and no doubt a better athlete.

Cam Newton's and Andrew Luck's stats are nearly identical in the passing realm, however Newton has a huge advantage over Luck on the ground aspect of the game. It seems the NFL is starting to move toward mobile QB's. Vick, Rodgers, and Freeman are the top 3 rushing quarterback's in the NFL and they all have their teams in position for a postseason birth. I would be thrilled to have Newton leading the Panthers.

[mick eye]

NEWS FLASH!!! College players need time to acclimate to the NFL. Especially QB's.

When the Buccaneers drafted Freeman and he threw 10 td's and 18 int's do you think some were ready to give up on him? Josh went from a 59% completion rating to 92.

Also the Luck lickers can not fathom that Cam Newton could be the steal of the draft. They want us to take Luck and then someone trade up for Cam and turn him into a star. I say we trade down and let the Cam and Luck sweepstakes work for us.

Clausen is NOT the problem. We need new coaching. We need a new culture. We need a big time WR, DT, or CB. Believe or not Clausen can lead this team to victory.

[TheRealDeal]

NEWS FLASH!!! College players need time to acclimate to the NFL. Especially QB's.

When the Buccaneers drafted Freeman and he threw 10 td's and 18 int's do you think some were ready to give up on him? Josh went from a 59% completion rating to 92.

You are missing the point sir. The point is that Freeman showed some potential. He had 10 TDs. Jimmy has 1. Josh was 59%. Jimmy is below 50%. You see the difference?

People were expecting the rookie to struggle but also expected to see some flashes. The struggling has been there but not the flashes, that's why people are giving up. All the other rookies are showing flashes, just not ours.

[mav1234]

why can't we draft Luck, and still have a QB competition with Clausen? Luck could use the time to sit behind Clausen. If Clausen develops, great. If Luck beats him out, fine.

Keep Luck, Clausen. Find a veteran to bring in.

Build around a young QB. *shrugs*