Ward 1, Hunter, maybe 2. Per McShay

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, 45catfan said:

There will be an early run on OTs, IMO.  Sanders falls.  How far?  How about I'm recent seeing mocks having the Steelers drafting Dart at #21 WITH Sanders still on the board.  I'm telling you, I saw just some snippets of Sanders Pro Day and it looked like he was throwing a medicine ball instead of a football.  Very little zip and the ball looked oversized/cumbersome to throw.

I could definitely see several OTs going high. 

Yeah, I just never got the hype with Sanders as an NFL prospect. Good college QB there just wasn't anything about his traits and not much about his game that I saw translating to the NFL. He just looks like the classic "good college player who doesn't translate to the NFL" IMO.

[LinvilleGorge]

And that's not factoring in the "daddy factor" complication. You know Deion is gonna be sticking his nose in if things aren't going according to his plan. So you have to both fall in love with the (IMO) marginal prospect and deal with the helicopter dad with a huge microphone. Yeah, that'd be a hard pass from me.

[Lurk21]

Jax is going Tet or oline... they have invested a ton of time on Tet and want to pair him with Thomas Jr. Somebody is gonna drop and I'm thinking it's Carter more n more. 3 is going to be Sanders... rather it's the giants or somebody going up to 3  or 4 to get him.  Jeanty is a raider. 

[45catfan]

This Carson Schwesinger's season stats:  CRUSHES Jalon Walker's production that happens to be a second round prospect high second, but day 2 none-the-less.

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

This Carson Schwesinger's season stats:  CRUSHES Jalon Walker's production that happens to be a second round prospect high second, but day 2 none-the-less.

The difference is that everyone knows that Schwesinger projects as an off ball LB where as most think Walker can be an EDGE. He did both at UGA.

Hell, I wouldn't be opposed to to drafting Walker at 8 and Schwesinger at 57 if he's there.

[45catfan]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The difference is that everyone knows that Schwesinger projects as an off ball LB where as most think Walker can be an EDGE. He did both at UGA.

Hell, I wouldn't be opposed to to drafting Walker at 8 and Schwesinger at 57 if he's there.

That's part of my problem, Walker is a 'tweener and we fug those guys up--royally.  See Jeremy Chinn. Not only that, able to play two positions is very different than dominating at one.  This isn't the OL where the ability to play multiple positions is seen as a plus, or even a requirement.

[LinvilleGorge]

I mean, we basically fug up everything. Most of the guys we draft are as good as they're ever going to be on draft day. We've been both terrible at drafting and terrible at player development for years now. 

[jfra78]

24 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

That's part of my problem, Walker is a 'tweener and we fug those guys up--royally.  See Jeremy Chinn. Not only that, able to play two positions is very different than dominating at one.  This isn't the OL where the ability to play multiple positions is seen as a plus, or even a requirement.

Never understood the Chinn comparison,why not compare him to Luvu which makes more sense?  Oh i know because we used Luvu well so that doesn't support your argument

[jfra78]

37 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The difference is that everyone knows that Schwesinger projects as an off ball LB where as most think Walker can be an EDGE. He did both at UGA.

Hell, I wouldn't be opposed to to drafting Walker at 8 and Schwesinger at 57 if he's there.

We will use him like Luvu, watch Dunc compare the 2

https://youtu.be/nt_aDTMX7DM?si=0Y7DYQ7sFKy2u10T

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Never understood the Chinn comparison,why not compare him to Luvu which makes more sense?  Oh i know because we used Luvu well so that doesn't support your argument

Luvu was a FA that was coming into his prime.  Yes, he hit his stride here, but we didn't draft and mold him during his first contract.  So your comparison isn't exactly apple-to-apples either.

[jfra78]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Luvu was a FA that was coming into his prime.  Yes, he hit his stride here, but we didn't draft and mold him during his first contract.  So your comparison isn't exactly apple-to-apples either.

So you think comparing a safety to a LB makes sense?

[SOJA]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

My clued in Giants fan Buddy says #3 is Carter's floor. If he's there they're taking him.

I believe this. Giants owner kept the coach and GM for a reason and it wasn't to reach on shedeur

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

Past week of consensus mocks.

This would be great for us if it went this way because Sanders would be on the board and trade ups are on the table.

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, SOJA said:

I believe this. Giants owner kept the coach and GM for a reason and it wasn't to reach on shedeur

That being said, rookie QB does buy time normally.

Veteran QB usually means unemployment if things don't work out.

I should also mention I think the Giants will nuke the entire coaching staff and FO next offseason.