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Sound Off: Worst team in the NFL

hepcat

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hepcat Grand Master

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Voice your frustrations here in this one thread. It's been the worst year in Panther history even surpassing the 1-15 year. At least that team was in games. This is the first year when the Panthers play a game I know they are going to lose before they even step on the field.

Last in media power rankings - can't remember the last time that happened. Worst offense (and could be the worst in NFL history if the trend continues), lame duck coach, cheap owner, bust draft picks left and right, no veteran leadership, injuries piling up, underperforming (former) star players, no QB...what the hell else could we ask for?!?

Oh wait, a defense that performs well for awhile only to finally break the past couple weeks. Could only be expected after spending so much time on the field. The bright spots are as hard to see as a smoggy night in London during the industrial revolution. Sound off.

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hepcat Grand Master

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The only thing left to look forward to is the 2011 draft, signing some good free agents and waiting on hopefully having a better 2011,as we write the 2010 season off as a bad dream.

If there's football in 2011. Just KEEPS getting better.

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If there's football in 2011. Just KEEPS getting better.

I hope we can at least have some sort of scab league. I don't really know what the true ramifications of next year will be if a new CBA isn't reached. Whats worse is that if there is no football in '11 then this crap is the last panther football for almost 2 years.

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Perspective:

TICKET FORECAST: PRICES FOR EVERY NFL TEAM

• Arizona Cardinals, University of Phoenix Stadium (65,000): Increase: Yes. Price range: $25-$112.50 Note: Raised prices on some seats, but also lowered tag by $15 on 2,300 seats to increase inventory on lowest-priced ($25) seats.

• Atlanta Falcons, Georgia Dome (71,228): Increase: Yes. Price range: $55-$125 Note: Raised prices on 26,000 seats while lowering tag on 6,800 seats.

• Baltimore Ravens, M&T Bank Stadium (71,008): Increase: No. Price range: $55-$135 Note: Have typically raised ticket prices every other year.

• Buffalo Bills, Ralph Wilson Stadium (73,967): Increase: Yes. Price range: $40-$80 Note: Excluding the one home game in Toronto, Bills season ticket average ($59.19) is more than $15 less than NFL average.

• Carolina Panthers, Bank of America Stadium (73,504): Increase: Yes. Price range: $32-$97 Note: About 95% of seats increased, from $1 to $9, depending on location.

• Chicago Bears, Soldier Field (61,500): Increase: Yes. Price range: $68-$125 Note: About 25% of seats remained flat, while other non-club seats had increases ranging from $2 to $17.

• Cincinnati Bengals, Paul Brown Stadium (65,515): Increase: Yes. Price range: $60-$85 Note: Modest increase raised prices $1 per ticket in canopy and second-level end zone levels, $3 per seat in field level and convertible club areas.

• Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Browns Stadium (73,300): Increase: No. Price range: $32-85. Note: Club offering season tickets for first time in family-friendly, alcohol-free family zone.

• Dallas Cowboys, Cowboys Stadium (85,000-105,000): Increase: No. Price range: $75-$239. Note: Standing-room "Party Pass" tickets can also be had for $29.

• Denver Broncos, Invesco Field at Mile High (76,125): Increase: No. Price range: $45-$125. Note: Broncos lowered club seats about 21% and created new alcohol-free family zone.

• Detroit Lions, Ford Field (64,500): Increase: No. Price range: $30-$140. Note: With 2-30 mark over past two years, Lions give fans a break: Lower prices on 19,000 season tickets

• Green Bay Packers, Lambeau Field (72,928): Increase: Yes. Price range: $67-$83. Note: First increase since 2007, averaging $9 per ticket. But still one of NFL's best values with lower-bowl seats between the 20s at $83.

• Houston Texans, Reliant Stadium (71,054): Increase: Yes. Price range: $30-$120. Note: Average ticket of $71.86 is 6.67% higher than '09, but Texans (carrying 80-game sellout streak) still rank in lower half among NFL teams.

• Indianapolis Colts, Lucas Oil Stadium (63,000): Increase: Yes. Price range: $38-$126. Note: After roughly 90% of prices remained flat in '09, tickets are up $4-$7 per seat in '10.

• Jacksonville Jaguars, Jacksonville Municipal Stadium (67,164): Increase: No. Price range: $30-$98. Note: After averaging just 49,652 per game in '09, Jags dropped upper deck season tickets to $300 from $390 and now offer interest-free payment plans.

• Kansas City Chiefs, Arrowhead Stadium (76,416): Increase: No. Price range: $30-$145. Note: Despite refurbishing stadium, Chiefs non-premium tickets have decreased 7.5% over 3 years, now averaging $71.29 per seat vs. $77.09 in '08.

• Miami Dolphins, Sun Life Stadium (75,192): Increase: Yes. Price range: $34-$120. Note: 44% of seats remained flat or decreased in cost, restructured price scaling offers six new seating categories.

• Minnesota Vikings, Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome (64,121): Increase: Yes. Price range: $15-$143. Note: Despite raising prices on some seats for second time in three seasons, Vikes still have the NFL's lowest-priced ticket: $15.

• New England Patriots, Gillette Stadium (68,756): Increase: No. Price range: $65-$169. Note: Didn't raise prices in 2009 — and already project that prices will remain flat in 2011.

• New Orleans Saints, Louisiana Superdome (68,000): Increase: Yes. Price range: $25-$190. Note: Increase is $10 or less per game for more than half of season tickets.

• New York Giants, New Meadowlands Stadium (82,500): Increase: Yes. Price range: $85-$160. Note: In addition to cost of tickets, PSLs for new stadium range from $1,000 to $20,000

• New York Jets, New Meadowlands Stadium (82,500): Increase: Yes. Price range: $95-$150. Note: New home underscores demand for premium seating: Jets have 10,000 club seats, versus 500 in their old stadium.

• Oakland Raiders, Oakland Coliseum (63,132): Increase: No. Price range: $26-$151. Note: Hosted smallest NFL crowd in '09 (34,112 vs. Cincinnati) and had NFL's lowest avg. attendance (44,285).

• Philadelphia Eagles, Lincoln Financial Field (69,144): Increase: No. Price range: $70-$95. Note: Linc can handle big overflow crowd for Donovan McNabb's return on Oct. 3, with standing-room tickets selling for $55.

• Pittsburgh Steelers, Heinz Field (65,050): Increase: Yes. Price range: $64-$98. Note: Prices increased about 7% across the board.

• St. Louis Rams, Edward Jones Dome (66,000): Increase: No. Price range: $25-$140. Note: With 6-42 record over past 3 years, Rams slashed prices on approximately two-thirds of seats.

• San Diego Chargers, Qualcomm Stadium (70,000): Increase: No. Price range: $54-$98. Note: Despite team's success (and desire for new stadium), Chargers repeatedly flirted with home-game blackouts in '09.

• San Francisco 49ers, Candlestick Park (69,732): Increase: Yes. Price range: $29-$149. Note: Average season ticket ($74) is up 4%, although price on roughly 1/3 of seats decreased or were unchanged.

• Seattle Seahawks, Qwest Field (67,000): Increase: Yes. Price range: $52-$110. Note: Average price increase was about 3%. Waiting list of approximately 10,000 dates to 2006, when season tickets were cut off at 61,000.

• Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Raymond James Stadium (65,908): Increase: No. Price range: $25-$115. Note: New option in 2010: Youth Season Tickets, for 16-and-under crowd, at $25 per game.

• Tennessee Titans, LP Field (69,143): Increase: Yes. Price range: $45-$85. Note: Across the board $2 increase on tickets was passed along as new city ticket tax of $2 is instituted this year.

• Washington Redskins, FedEx Field (91,704): Increase: No. Price range: $29-$99. Note: Topped Forbes list for NFL revenue in '09 with $345M, but haven't raised general admission prices at NFL's largest venue since 2006.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2010-05-11-ticket-prices-mainbar_N.htm

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Those have to be "general admission" seats... those that they sell to the public without PSLs. Some PSL tickets are well over the $97 rate shown in that table. Not sure how that skews the comparison, as some teams do not use PSLs, though they do sell season tickets for the same seats year-by-year.

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The Panthers sad state of affairs has taken my passion for NFL football with it. I don't care to watch any game now. Seeing the success of other teams pisses me off, as I feel it should be us, but also know the reality. I just don't see any quick fixes, so I'm not optimistic that flipping a switch somewhere will make this offense work. I know it worked two years ago, but with Jake we were always hanging by a thread, and when that thread broke, we see how bad it really was.

This will make for a painfully long off-season, but it will be welcome when a bullet is mercifully put into the head of the 2010 season.

As the old saying goes: "Hope springs eternal, but the Panthers suck balls."

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