Breaking down Hurney's ability to draft and sign free agents

[panther4life]

Hurneys Free agent acquisitions

In 02 he signed the following free agents.

CB Terry Cousin Miami -sucked

QB Rodney Peete Oakland -sucked

RB Lamar Smith Miami -sucked

In 03

HB Stephen Davis*forgot to list him earlier

G Doug Brzezinski Philadelphia -sucked

QB Jake Delhomme New Orleans -damn good for a few a years

WR Kevin Dyson Tennessee -sucked

LB Greg Favors Buffalo -about average

WR Ricky Proehl St. Louis- played brilliantly

In 04

G Travis Claridge Atlanta- sucked

CB Terrance Shaw Oakland -sucked

LB Brandon Short New York Giants -pretty good

In 05

S Idrees Bashir Indianapolis -sucked

TE Freddie Jones Arizona -think he retired before playing a snap

CB Ken Lucas Seattle good at first, then flamed out quickly

S Marlon McCree Houston -decent

P Tom Rouen -honestly cant remember

In 06

Nail Diggs- above average

LB Keith Adams Philadelphia- sucked

C Justin Hartwig Tennessee -average

DT Maake Kemoeatu Baltimore -above average

DT Damione Lewis St. Louis -average

S Kevin McCadam Atlanta -sucked

S Shaun Williams New York Giants -sucked

In 07

S Deke Cooper San Francisco -sucked

In 08

2008

Unrestricted Free Agents Signed

Pos Player Team

DE Tyler Brayton Oakland -average

G Milford Brown St. Louis -sucked

CB Ricardo Colclough Cleveland -sucked

WR D.J. Hackett Seattle -sucked

LB Landon Johnson Cincinnati -sucked

DT Ian Scott Philadelphia -sucked

RB LaBrandon Toefield Jacksonville-below average

G Keydrick Vincent Arizona -did pretty good

In 09

none

In 2010

None

-Only player to give us more than 3 good years was Delhomme

to his credit the best players we lost via free agency were as follows

Ricky Manning Jr.-good nickel corner, although undersized

Will Witherspoon-Never as good after leaving us

OL Geoff Hangartner Buffalo-could be our right guard right now

LB Adam Seward Indianapolis -expendable cuz of Conner

Here are the trades under the Hurney era.(Excluding trades involving 7th round picks)

Jay Williams to Miami for Al Wallace and a 4th round pick= Best trade IMO

Todd Sauerbun to Denver for Jason Baker and 6th rounder=sauerbun was a best but was a damn alcoholic, so good trade

04-traded 4th rounder to move 3 slots to snag Gamble=good move

05-Traded down 9 spots to snag Eric Shelton, and picked up 4th to grab stefan lefors with=shitty move

05-gave up 2 4th rounders to move into the 3rd round to draft Attayh Ellison=

good move in theory, drafted shitty player tho

05- 5th rounder to Chicago for Chris Harris= good trade at the time

06 6th rounder for Rod Gardner=pie

07-traded down from 14th (Revis) to 25th and picked up beason.also thru in a 6th and aqcuired their 2nd 59th and Kalil fell into our lap=Good move overall

08-Gave up 43rd pick,109th and following years first for Otah =jury still out on this one, although for the first couple seasons it looked to be a good move

09-Traded 2010's first rounder (17th overall) for san frans 43rd and 111th (Goodson)=Thank god we got Goodson out of it, but still a very bad move

2010 6th rounder for Louis Leonard=desperation move

2010 5th rounder for Tank Tyler=desperation move

10-Traded our upcoming 2nd rounb pick(33-39) overall for Armanti (89th overall)looks like a dumbass move to me, but maybe one day he'll excel

And every draft pick still on the team taken by Hurney 02 draft-nobody

03 draft- Gross (8th overall)

04 draft- Gamble (28th overall)

04 draft- Wharton (94th overall

05 draft-Thomas Davis (14th overall)

06 draft Deagelo Willaims (27th overall)

06 draft-James Anderson (88th overall)

06 draft-Jeff King(155th overall)

07 draft-Beason (25th overall)

07 draft-kalil (59th overall)

07 draft-Charles Johnson (83rd overall)

07 draft-Dante Rosario (155th overall)

08 Stewart (13th overall)

08 Otah(19th overall)

2009 draft and 2010 draft picks lsited all on current team

2009

2a (43) DE Everette Brown

2b (59) CB Sherrod Martin

3 (93) DT Corvey Irvin

4a (111) RB Mike Goodson

4b (128) FB Tony Fiammetta

7 (216) CB Captain Munnerlyn

2010

2 (48) QB Jimmy Clausen

3a (78) WR Brandon LaFell

3b (89) WR Armanti Edwards

4 (124) DE Eric Norwood

6a (175) DE Greg Hardy

6b (198) WR David Gettis Baylor

6c (202) S Jordan Pugh

6d (204) QB Tony Pike

7b (249) CB Robert McClain

[raleigh-panther]

Well, as if I was not depressed enough.....

[chknwing]

heh I'm sure Hurney is reading this and writing up his resignation as we speak. Seriously, 99% of this forum knows Hurney sucks ass, why spend so much time trying to prove it to us, mail that poo to Hurney himself.

[Baschski]

The Panthers have drafted pretty well for the most part. We have gotten ridiculously good value out of our late round picks for years, and it seems like we can't miss on a 1st rounder. Need to get a little better in the middle rounds, but overall we've done really well.

[Cyberjag]

This is ridiculous on it's face. Every GM brings in several free agents every year, and most of them don't make it out of training camp.

When we needed starters, Hurney went out and found them. You can say Peete sucked, but he brought us from 1-15 to 7-9. You can criticize others, but the ones that stuck did so because they earned a spot. The ones that didn't cost us next to nothing, so I think they were fair gambles.

And he's had misses in the draft, but who hasn't? He's managed to hit on all his first rounders, and he's found more than a few gems late.

He's a good GM. Your post does a decent job of suggesting otherwise, but when you compare him to everyone else the argument just disintegrates....

[Kurb]

FFS the stupid increases with every loss

[Fiz]

[Squirrel]

How the heck can you forget Stephen Davis??

[Fiz]

How the heck can you forget Stephen Davis??

the guy was counting scrub depth signings against Hurney

it's not like historical accuracy was a big concern

[Kurb]

"Youz guys remembers when dat depf gai shoewed ups on da squad, man he nevah played lol 21111, Hunezy sux"

[pantherj]

Hurney failed in finding a QB to replace Jake. Game over.

[SOJA]

[Fiz]

get the fug out

[Cyberjag]

Hurney failed in finding a QB to replace Jake. Game over.

Is it that, or is it that he thought Matt Moore was better than he is?

I would argue that his failure was in allowing Fox to hire Davidson, but overall he's been outstanding at managing the cap and stocking the roster with talent.