Here's hoping Edwards gets a start at QB this year

[Floppin]

So you think Armanti is as good as Drew Brees or Peyton Manning....

Cause that's what I said exactly. God I hate the huddle sometimes.

[Floppin]

So they pass from the shotgun and run from under center.....yea the opposing defense would never get the clue....

Are you really this stupid, or just being an ass to troll me?

[mav1234]

Not saying they would succeed at all, I never said that. I was just giving examples of what they would have to do and stating that rooting for failure is asinine.

And THIS offense doesn't exist anymore, it's a patchwork f**k job at the moment.

right, the offense blows, but call me skeptical, but I don't see a COMPLETE and TOTAL overhaul mid season being possible.

you're right, if we completely changed the offense we might find some success, but isn't that true no matter who is QB?

I hope AE comes in and lights it up, but seriously....

[rayzor]

so let me get this straight:

If the Panthers are able to abandon their offensive philsophy, completely change their scheme, redo most of their plays, and get some guy who had been getting reps at WR in at QB, we'll succeed? this is mid season, remember.

because that's about what you guys are suggesting.

If Edwards can't be under center, he can't be an every down QB in THIS offense right now.

if the panthers are going to win, they have to change their offensive strategy and adapt it to the strengths of their players. continuing to do the same thing they've done all year will only net the same results. of course. we're talking about a fox coached team so adapting the offense to the strengths of our players is out of the question. it's all about getting players and trying to stick them into your narrow and heavily regulated system whether they work in it or not...whether the system works or not.

[Carl Spackler]

I'd also like to be able to have a QB under center if we're on 4th and goal from the 1 down by 4.

[C47]

Are you really this stupid, or just being an ass to troll me?

Like you said they would put him in the shotgun to negate his biggest weakness which is his height. So then you would have passing downs where Armanti would be in the shotgun and it would essentialy be a run pass option and running downs where we would be under center with a two back set the majority of the time. A third grader would clue into that....

[C47]

Cause that's what I said exactly. God I hate the huddle sometimes.

You said the Saints and Colts run a modified spread, which is true. What you failed to mention was the Saints and Colts have HOF level QB's something Armanti is not.....

[Floppin]

You have no depth to your thinking then. He could still throw from under center, they would have to to keep it honest. I have no doubt that he would be able to, but the majority of plays could be run out of the shotgun to make it easier.

[mav1234]

if the panthers are going to win, they have to change their offensive strategy and adapt it to the strengths of their players. continuing to do the same thing they've done all year will only net the same results. of course. we're talking about a fox coached team so adapting the offense to the strengths of our players is out of the question. it's all about getting players and trying to stick them into your narrow and heavily regulated system whether they work in it or not...whether the system works or not.

I completely agree the team needs to change, but asking for a complete overhaul midseason is foolish. We can't even expect routes to shorten and playcalling to adjust for our supposed "franchise quarterback of the future," why would they drastically change everything for AE?

I totally agree that Fox is failing at coaching here, btw. Just saying, we shouldnt' expect anything from AE at this point.

[Floppin]

It takes a hall of fame QB to run a modified spread offense?

[C47]

You have no depth to your thinking then. He could still throw from under center, they would have to to keep it honest. I have no doubt that he would be able to, but the majority of plays could be run out of the shotgun to make it easier.

So you think a kid who has never been asked to throw under center on a consistent basis could do it consistently and well enough so succeed on the highest level.....

[Carl Spackler]

Sorry, I just see lots of covered receivers, blown protections and rolling out to find nothing and getting sacked.

[C47]

It takes a hall of fame QB to run a modified spread offense?

No but it certainly helps to have a great QB if you're running a spread and throwing it 50 times....

[SOJA]

so let me get this straight:

If the Panthers are able to abandon their offensive philsophy, completely change their scheme, redo most of their plays, and get some guy who had been getting reps at WR in at QB, we'll succeed? this is mid season, remember.

because that's about what you guys are suggesting.

If Edwards can't be under center, he can't be an every down QB in THIS offense right now.

this. It's not very realistic that Armanti would put up great qb numbers just because the odds are stacked against him. I would however like to see Armanti get 10-12 plays a game in the wildcat formation, because as I have said early if he drops back to throw, at least he will run around before taking yet another sack. Clausen and Moore just stood there