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Fiz's 7 point plan

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Proudiddy Grand Master

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Agreed with plan...

And I still don't understand those that DON'T want to draft a QB... We have to. We've tried the whole, draft a guy where he falls to us, and it hasn't worked.

You've got to find your franchise QB through the draft... Show me how many teams had long-term, sustained success with a QB they didn't draft themselves? Teams that sign QBs to come in and be their guy end up being stop-gap guys, and they were able to sign them in the first place for a reason. There's always an exception, but this is the rule.

Only thing that really sucks is WR should have been addressed this year with Boldin or Marshall. Maybe we'll go after VJ, but I doubt it with his baggage.

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What happens with Clausen depends a lot on the next head coach. Hire a guy who wants to go West Coast with the offense and the odds of his sticking around go up. Even if you don't, new coaches often come in thinking "he was only bad because I wasn't coaching him". No guarantee the next guy won't still see him as potentially good.

Regarding Luck, he's reportedly stated that he will consult with Harbaugh as far as staying in school or going pro. No stretch to think that Harbaugh getting a pro job on a team with a high pick affects how that particular discussion goes.

If the Panthers wind up with the second or third overall pick, they might have to trade to get the number one in order to get Luck. Buffalo (still currently holding the number one) could still be thinking QB. Yes, Ryan Fitzpatrick is doing decent, but given the choice between Fitzpatrick and Luck, who would you take?

Realistically speaking, you increase your chances of the team targeting Luck significantly by hiring Harbaugh.

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Yeah, ideally I see us taking Luck and hopefully Harbaugh will be ready for an NFL gig and we offer him the job.

If all that falls into place, I have no concerns about eventually winning the #1 pick. We can't score points and Buffalo can. Eventually they're going to win a couple.

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if you don't want a QB, the only choices are fairley or peterson imho

I may warm up to Luck, but it's doubtful he'll be there unless the Bills go on a winning streak. Newton has The Golden Calf of Bristol disease and I'll empty the bar of whiskey if we take Locker.

Peterson hasn't really wow'd me this year, but his talent is undeniable. If the Boys pick in front of us, he's gone.

Fairley maybe, but right now I'd prefer AJ Green or Amukamara if we have a top 5 pick.

Sucks to have a high pick when there's no elite level linemen on either side of the ball coming out this year.

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lets just stockpile QBs for the sole reason of "well, eventually one of these guys is going to work out"

i'm not even being sarcastic

Only if we hire Jon Gruden.

I may warm up to Luck, but it's doubtful he'll be there unless the Bills go on a winning streak. Newton has The Golden Calf of Bristol disease and I'll empty the bar of whiskey if we take Locker.

Peterson hasn't really wow'd me this year, but his talent is undeniable. If the Boys pick in front of us, he's gone.

Fairley maybe, but right now I'd prefer AJ Green or Amukamara if we have a top 5 pick.

Sucks to have a high pick when there's no elite level linemen on either side of the ball coming out this year.

I don't want a rookie receiver, regardless of how good he is. We're young enough there already.

Signing a vet is a better option, but don't be surprised if such a move also increases the chances of Steve Smith no longer being on roster.

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Even if we have the 1st overall pick and draft Luck, I like the idea of going after a guy like McNabb and having him be the starter so Luck can develop under him.

I think we NEED to re-sign Williams, jury is still out on Stewart in my mind. This year has shown that Williams has the ability to make something out of nothing and Stewart does not.

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Yep. I'd rather have Williams. Also, keep Clausen around he is very young. Get rid of Moore and draft a franchise QB in the first top 5. Trade up if we have to. Let Clausen compete with real competition. Of course I wouldn't mind Matt Moore for our backup either. One thing is for sure our top pick must go to a QB.

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You've got to find your franchise QB through the draft... Show me how many teams had long-term, sustained success with a QB they didn't draft themselves? Teams that sign QBs to come in and be their guy end up being stop-gap guys, and they were able to sign them in the first place for a reason. There's always an exception, but this is the rule.

You really don't have to look too far, the team we played against this weekend is a pretty notable exception. You could also use Kurt Warner in Arizona, (which would have been longer term if not for the team's insistence on trying to make Matt Leinart the guy). It remains to be seen if it will work over the long term, but there's a team in Philly that's doing alright with a free agent signing at QB.

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Biggest question will be do we give up on Clausen or not.

Everything else I agree with.

I think Clausen should just start the rest of the year regardless of how he plays. He'll either get better and we'll have us a QB or we'll know we need to use our top 3 pick on one.

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