I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

[Baschski]

Then maybe you should stop defending him.

I didn't say he was good. I said JR is mainly to blame for this season, not Fox.

[Raskle]

Hurney has stated plenty of times that he just makes the deals

[Baschski]

Hurney has stated plenty of times that he just makes the deals

Lol, ok.

[Raskle]

We'll just agree to disagree? I can do so if you can respect my opinion as I do yours. Deal?

(Plus, this flu is kicking my ass and I'm tired of arguing, hehehe)

[Mother Grabber]

I didn't say he was good. I said JR is mainly to blame for this season, not Fox.

I agree that JR had done a crappy job, but also fear what will happen if he hires Fox 2.0. We'll be right back here in the land of mediocrity for another 9 seasons.

[Baschski]

We'll just agree to disagree? I can do so if you can respect my opinion as I do yours. Deal?

(Plus, this flu is kicking my ass and I'm tired of arguing, hehehe)

Done. Go eat some chicken soup and take a nap.

[Baschski]

I agree that JR had done a crappy job, but also fear what will happen if he hires Fox 2.0. We'll be right back here in the land of mediocrity for another 9 seasons.

JR has generally been one of the better owners in the NFL. This year isn't typical of him, so I'm optimistic that it will get better. We just have some growing pains ahead of us.

[Raskle]

Cheers man! (wish beerchug worked...) :beerchug:

I'm out all.. wish me luck for work comes early tomorrow. Nite!

[grateflday]

Pretty dumb blanket statement. Look around the league and see what teams are winning. It's not with QBs. It's with solid running games and solid defenses.

Falcons, Ravens, Cheifs, Jets, Steelers, Giants are all run first/defensive teams.

Only two QB driven teams in the top 8 are Colts and Patriots (Two of the best QBs of all time)

Still stand by your statement that it's all about the QB?

What?? You responded to a post of somebody who said:

"In the NFL it's all about your QB and we don't have one right now. I won't see a light at the end of the tunnel until I feel like we have a QB than can win games on a consistent basis."

Falcons = Matt Ryan

Ravens = Flacco

Giants = Manning

Steelers = Roethlisberger

The post was not saying we need a QB driven team but one who can win games, and be consistent. The above are all QB's who can and have won games on a consistent basis and win games for their teams. Getting a Payton Manning or Brady is not going to happen everyday but I will take the QB of the Falcons, Giants, Ravens or Steelers any day of the week.

[Brokenbad]

First of all, we have to be real. This season is over. Maybe we catch fire at the end in December as typical with Fox, but hopefully we get the first pick, and draft a REAL QB, because Moore and Clausen both suck.

That being said, the Defense should be keep in tact for next year, plus with Davis coming back we should be flexible on the linebacking core.

To be honest, rather or not we keep D Will doesn't bother me as much as it maybe should. I like Goodson. I like Goodson and Steward. If we keep Will, awesome, if not, I won't lose sleep.

Gettis/Smitty/Lafell. A few weeks ago I said sure about these guys, but by next year, with a half decent coach, these guys will be unstoppable.

Its gonna be a long rough hard frustrating year...but we can only get better guys..

fugin seriously? You dont even deserve the neg rep I should give you.

[TheRealDeal]

What?? You responded to a post of somebody who said:

"In the NFL it's all about your QB and we don't have one right now. I won't see a light at the end of the tunnel until I feel like we have a QB than can win games on a consistent basis."

Falcons = Matt Ryan

Ravens = Flacco

Giants = Manning

Steelers = Roethlisberger

The post was not saying we need a QB driven team but one who can win games, and be consistent. The above are all QB's who can and have won games on a consistent basis and win games for their teams. Getting a Payton Manning or Brady is not going to happen everyday but I will take the QB of the Falcons, Giants, Ravens or Steelers any day of the week.

Yes they have QBs. They are winning because they have top tier run games and top tier defenses. Steelers won games without Big Ben. Giants have the leading rusher in the NFL and a top 5 defense. Flacco isn't anything special but benefits from a good defense and run game. Falcons also have a great running game. How come you left out the Chiefs and Jets?

The point of the post was more teams are winning with run games and defense rather than airing it out. Also, a solid run game opens up the pass game especially in our offense.