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Matt Moore sure was pissed off after that Rams game

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QB turnovers off a stat sheet are misleading. Doesn't account for turnovers that really are b/c of poor play at other spots.

Kitna threw 3 INTs on Sunday as Dallas got beat. He gets the credit and blame on a stat sheet....but he wasn't the reason for all of them.

Thats funny stuff, you people see something i don't on film, Matt is not even average

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CRA Grand Master

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Well apparently Smitty is the Gandhi, well except for that whole non-violent thing...

You people get so caught up in f*cking jock riding, you can't think clearly. Read all my posts about our players.

AGAIN. I DON'T GIVE A SH*T WHO IS OUT THERE AS LONG AS THEY WIN. I HAVE NO PERSONAL AGENDA OR INTEREST FOR ANY GUY TO PLAY OVER ANOTHER UNLESS THEY'RE HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE THE NEXT GUY - Like if we have Peyton Manning vs. Matt Moore.

Clausen and Moore are on equal footing because they have both played shitty this year, my point is the whole team sucks right now. Moore and Clausen aren't the only reasons for INTs b/c this team sucks.

So did Smitty not fumble 2 weeks in a row on key drives? Has he not been shown multiple times jogging on plays? Did he not draw a personal foul penalty 2 weeks ago that almost cost us as well?

The last INT didn't even matter, we already lost... I'm just saying look at the play. It looked to be an option route and Smitty had an open spot in the zone in front of the safety. Instead, he half heartedly gave a stutter and then jogged up field. Moore appeared to anticipate that Smitty was going to settle in front of the safety and threw it to that spot. Safety had an easy pick.

As far as Moore, he's f*cked up plenty himself where no blame can be placed on anyone but him (and maybe the OL), but the throws he makes in these circumstances are completely on him. As some have pointed out in the other thread, MM completely neglected an entire side of the field, TWICE, when Smitty was left wide open and most likely would've had a TD. No doubt, these were plays that Jake, even with his errant throws, made regularly before his decline - and that's the difference now. We don't have a guy that will make that easy throw for 6 to Smitty, but he'll try to force it to him when it's not there and throw a pick.

MM has shown a tendency to neglect an entire side of the field more than once this season and vs. STL was no different. It boggles my mind that even the average fan understands that if a blitz is coming heavy from one side, that most likely means there's going to be a guy open on that side. Just like in basketball, if someone is double teamed, then someone is open. Yet, MM never even looked to the side of the blitz and ran away from it, missing an easy TD to Smitty...

So, unlike many of the mindless jock riding douchebags that you may be accustomed to occupying these threads, I don't pull for the players - I pull for the team. I like some of our players, but it doesn't influence my observation and evaluation of their performance. If the guy sucks, he needs to be pulled, no matter the position.

in regards to that play, it is the left side he often ignores and Smitty has on the right.

Also, QBs can't make every read. Tom Brady doesn't go through every progression. Moore went to his often neglected side that play.

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I agree, now it's time for me to put on my Frank Reich jersey and remember the good times.

Haha you don't agree you just don't have a stupid comeback because he actually put you in your place and it's not me. If it was me you would have some backup and you would feel like you could say something stupid and get away with it.

QB turnovers off a stat sheet are misleading. Doesn't account for turnovers that really are b/c of poor play at other spots.

Kitna threw 3 INTs on Sunday as Dallas got beat. He gets the credit and blame on a stat sheet....but he wasn't the reason for all of them.

Kitna through 4 INTs, 3 of which went right through receivers hands.

I've tried talking about what coaches look for on tape grading out players but no one wants to listen. Moore made one bad decision and that's all that will show up on tape.

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in regards to that play, it is the left side he often ignores and Smitty has on the right.

Also, QBs can't make every read. Tom Brady doesn't go through every progression. Moore went to his often neglected side that play.

Smitty doesn't line up on the same side every play... My point was the side Smitty was on, was the side he neglected on two different blitzes that came from that same side.

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CRA Grand Master

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Thats funny stuff, you people see something i don't on film, Matt is not even average

what is funny? Explain how Kitna should be at fault for all the picks in Dallas' loss?

I am just saying you can pin a QB for everything on a stat sheet....and you can't.

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So 4 starts consists of a body of work? How about throwing in the starts he made last year or do those not count in his body of work? How many body of works can he have? Do they change each year?

Compare Favres stats from last year to this one and ask yourself this question again.

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