Is there anyone that still cares about this season?

[Jangler]

[CLTPanther]

My dad asked me yesterday why I still watch the games. Couldn't really think of an answer other than this is what I've been doing for the last 15 years on Sundays in the Fall/Winter. Oh well, at least it might be fun to watch Gettis keep getting better.

[Snake]

I accepted when Jake went down in flames this team was going to have to rebuild. I knew that meant losing. I hate losing but Im still going to pull for my team because I know we will start to win down the road again. Lets face it half of the league has not had the success we have in our short existence. We are almost spoiled to the fact we have a chance to make the playoffs every year. Well IMO I am willing to face some losses if that means a brighter future.

[Wither]

[...] and yet they are the ones that just give up on the team when the going gets rough.

The saddest part is there are a lot of people who do that in every day life as well.

[Wither]

I'm pointing out that their fan base is usually excited because their team improved in the off season [...]

My point is: how do you know that? Are you a Cowboys fan (or Steelers, Patriots, etc.) as well? Do you go to their games? Do you talk to 100 die-hard fans and take a survey?

I think you're making assumptions.

Not in this bunch

Regardless of whether it's aimed at Richardson, Hurney or Fox, the "he doesn't care" argument always boils down to one thing:

"He didn't do things the way I think he should have, therefore he must not care."

No one ever seems to latch on to the idea that maybe the guy who's actually running the team and who knows a bunch of the ins and outs that we can only speculate about might have a different opinion about the best way to go about things than we do.

"No, it can't be that. My way is the only possible way. This just proves that he doesn't care!"

Uh huh

Pretty weak, really :nonod:

Great post. Scottie nailed it on the head.

[Panthers_Lover]

I still care. Always will.

I rooted to the end of the 2001 season. I'll do the same with this one even if it's that bad.

This.

[Panthers_Lover]

Serious question then Mr. Scot: WHY? If the people that get paid to care don't care, if even the owner doesn't care, then why would someone that doesn't get paid a dime care about how a team performs where half the players will be jettisoned in the offseason? Why should we care? Because of that Panthers logo?

If you don't care, why are you here?

[Panthers_Lover]

The players do care (but will care less as the season goes on if we continue with just 1 win, Brentson Buckner has talked about this), but it's silly to believe Richardson DOES care. He has shown not one iota of caring towards this season. I can't think of one thing he has done that points to caring.

And blind fandom sounds all hardcore, but honestly, does it make any sense to care? Your argument for caring is basically: Because I do. Well, alrighty then. Jerry Richardson counts his billions of dollars off sheep and suckers like you. The team and ownership literally don't have to lift a finger towards winning this season and they're still not going to lose someone like you.

You name-call people who are loyal fans ... who are fans "because they are."

Again, you're not a fan, you don't care, why are you here ... to name-call those of us who are?

[The Saltman]

I don't really care about this season because we obviously are not going to go to the playoffs. However I love my team and even though I spent a lot of money on NFL sunday ticket I will still watch every game because I am a panther fan. Win or lose this will always be my team. Am I pissed? obviously.

[Panthers_Lover]

Stop defending JR. He doesn't care about the fans. He never has. Case in point? NFL logo in the middle of the field. Case in point? Boring stadium atmosphere, not allowing people to stand, etc. Case in point? Putting out a mediocre team every other year and never winning back to back. Case in point? Raising the ticket prices on PSL owners when he's throwing an INFERIOR product onto the field (even if it's strategy, who cares). Case in point? Letting a coach put Jake out there years after his prime. Case in point? Keeping a coach around who puts out a out-dated offense on the field for too many years when the league has evolved. Case in point? Hiring Browns staff castaways and expecting them to do anything.

We can debate about how much Fox sucks, this or that, or whatever, but it all rolls to JR. The fact is, problems with this team aren't new, we seen these coming from along way, and no one did anything.

He's going to make tons of money regardless of winning. I mean, half the stadium are the OTHER teams fans when they come to play us. Why care?

Why care? He's still making a ton of money, and that's his main focus, obviously, with his latest stance on things.

So if he fixes this team next year, which I doubt, spends money where needed, which I doubt, then maybe he'll redeem himself. I just haven't seen anything the last 8 years to make me think he cares about the fans.

Say what you want about Jerry Jones, and yeah, the Cowboys aren't doing well right now, but they usually have a competitive team yearly. He cares about the fans too. I hate them but that's how it is.

What BS.

[Sam Mills Fan]

yes, some of us choose to stick with the team through the bad times, because it makes the good times that much sweeter. guys like SMF complain to no end about the quality of the panthers' fanbase... and yet they are the ones that just give up on the team when the going gets rough.

The reason why the good times seem sweeter is because they happen so very rarely.

And for the record, I rarely ever complain about the fans. I made a rare exception when I went off on the fans last week for booing the team into the locker room after having their best half of the season though. That was just stupid.

[Sam Mills Fan]

If you don't care, why are you here?

To give you people something to talk about.

[CLTPanther]

I still care about beer... it's a start

[Sam Mills Fan]

You name-call people who are loyal fans ... who are fans "because they are."

Again, you're not a fan, you don't care, why are you here ... to name-call those of us who are?

Right okay. So because I hate losing to the point where I want those that are the root cause of the losing out of here gone, I'm "not a fan". Aren't we passed this? This isn't 2007 anymore kiddo.