Chargers struggles...

[Dpantherman]

This slide seems to be more than just their regular slow start that most of the analysts have diagnosed. There is no question that they have lots of talent, ability to score, and good defense (see the cowboys), but I think their HC is much more suited as a coordinator than a HC (see cowboys again). Aisde from that, its not all on the coach, they just can't seem to catch a break. this missed FG is a bummer.

[charlotte49er]

I don't know what I like to see happen more. New England lose or San Diego lose. Unfortunately they played each other.

[Kevin Greene]

Norv Turner is an outstanding OC but as a head Coach, no thanks.

Will the Chiefs completely choke like the Broncos did last year allowing the Chargers to rally and win the division?

Time will tell.

[thefuzz]

It's certainly not Norv Turner.

They have a top 5 O and a top 5 D on the field. He has Rivera coaching a 3-4 D as well as anyone out there, and he was a 4-3 guy.

Injuries and Inexperience is killing that team. They could easily be 6-1 (Rams beat them) were if not for very young players on O making bad mistakes, and having to field very young players on ST because of injuries.

The first 5 games of the season they were without 2 O linemen, and are on their 5th long snapper, all the while IR'ing 5 LB's.

Norv summed it up best for that team: He said they just have wayyy too many guys touching the ball far too many times that aren't used to doing so.

They will rally, but I wouldn't count on KC imploding like Denver did, they have better coaching, and a much smarter QB.

[blackcatgrowl]

It's certainly not Norv Turner.

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Crap is to poo.

John Fox is to Norv Turner.

There's no excuse for what's going on in SD. At least we can say we are starting a "youth movement".

[Kevin Greene]

It's certainly not Norv Turner.

They have a top 5 O and a top 5 D on the field. He has Rivera coaching a 3-4 D as well as anyone out there, and he was a 4-3 guy.

Injuries and Inexperience is killing that team. They could easily be 6-1 (Rams beat them) were if not for very young players on O making bad mistakes, and having to field very young players on ST because of injuries.

The first 5 games of the season they were without 2 O linemen, and are on their 5th long snapper, all the while IR'ing 5 LB's.

Norv summed it up best for that team: He said they just have wayyy too many guys touching the ball far too many times that aren't used to doing so.

They will rally, but I wouldn't count on KC imploding like Denver did, they have better coaching, and a much smarter QB.

Don't know if you saw the game yesterday. Horrible mental errors by their players. Catching a pass and setting it down on the field for the other team to pick up before the receiver is tackled (this ain't college).

Not covering a backwards pass (ie lateral) to a back for another turnover and points. The mental errors and missed assignments all year long on special teams costing them games. San Diego like Dallas has huge talent. But the teams lack discipline, especially mentally. Yeah, this poo stops at Norv's desk.

[Boltergeist]

Mental midgetry has been our Achilles heel since 04.

[thefuzz]

Don't know if you saw the game yesterday. Horrible mental errors by their players. Catching a pass and setting it down on the field for the other team to pick up before the receiver is tackled (this ain't college).

Not covering a backwards pass (ie lateral) to a back for another turnover and points. The mental errors and missed assignments all year long on special teams costing them games. San Diego like Dallas has huge talent. But the teams lack discipline, especially mentally. Yeah, this poo stops at Norv's desk.

I have watched every game that SD and the Panthers have played for about the last 6 seasons, and I am telling you that it aint Norv Turner.

That pass you are referencing was that players first pass in the NFL, please tell me that Norv had something to do with him getting excited. Also please tell me that Norv has something to do with VJ, Naanee, Floyd, and Gates being either hobbled and or out of the game.

Sorry dude, this is on the players, not the coach.

[thefuzz]

Mental midgetry has been our Achilles heel since 04.

They do seem to make some of the worst mistakes at the worst times don't they?

[Kevin Greene]

I have watched every game that SD and the Panthers have played for about the last 6 seasons, and I am telling you that it aint Norv Turner.

That pass you are referencing was that players first pass in the NFL, please tell me that Norv had something to do with him getting excited. Also please tell me that Norv has something to do with VJ, Naanee, Floyd, and Gates being either hobbled and or out of the game.

Sorry dude, this is on the players, not the coach.

Your opinion, which happens to be wrong.

[Dpantherman]

If the same thing didn't happen every year, Id say it were the players. Same thing every year under Norv, its a trend.

[thefuzz]

Your opinion, which happens to be wrong.

And yours is unfounded.

Listen, I promise you that I have watched this team much more than anyone on this board except for maybe Bolt, maybe.

They have let go of a lot of good players trying to continue to win in the future, and have a ton of players that were not even active last season playing in starters roles.

Please reference Norv's record with the Chargers with the other 31 HC's out there since he took over and get back to me. Without looking I would say his overall record is probably better than all but 2 or 3 HC's out there in that time period.

[Kevin Greene]

OK, OK. I live in SoCal and get all the Bolt games as well.

Your opinion/my opinion. 100 years from now nobody gives a poo.

[davos]

The offensive line there has underperformed ever since Marty left. It wasn't that LT slowed down towards the end of his run there...its been Turner and his incompetence imo