Realistically is there a better movie in the history of cinema than Starship Troopers

[Matt Moore]

akpantherfan is my hero

[cookinwithgas]

Anyone remember the song they played in the background in the trailer/commercial on TV when it was in the theater?

It was the WHOO HOO got my head shaved song

[Matt Moore]

song 2 - blur

good thing to know since everyone asks that question sooner or later

[Razzy]

C'mon Apes! You wanna live forever!?

I love Starship Troopers! Completely unfaithful to the original Heinlein book though, except for the highschool philosophy class scene.

[Squirrel]

He also made Total Recall and Basic Instinct.

Dude's a badass.

First time I saw Total Recall I thought it sucked. Had to watch it atleast twice to finally understand it. Which actually made a good movie to me.

On Starship Troopers the biggest thing that irritated me was they used nukes and that it didnt effect them.

[Jangler]

Anyone remember the song they played in the background in the trailer/commercial on TV when it was in the theater?

Solsbury Hill

[Miaoww]

First time I saw Total Recall I thought it sucked. Had to watch it atleast twice to finally understand it. Which actually made a good movie to me.

On Starship Troopers the biggest thing that irritated me was they used nukes and that it didnt effect them.

They didn't?

Pretty sure whenever the troopers hit the bugs with nukes the bugs died.

[Epistaxis]

They could have bombed the planets and wiped them out, but then they wouldn't have gotten the brain bug.

We could have bombed Iraq without ever going in. But then we would have lost all the oil.

Again, Verhoeven is the master of social parody.

An imperfect analogy.

The war with the bugs (which reminds me of Ender's game, another fine us vs. them and soon to be movie IIRC) is a war of species survival.

Extinction is on the line here, not a battle for resources.

When you start talking extinction, you start playing at the big boy table, and that means nukes.

F their planet. Nuke it til you run out of nukes, build more, then nuke it again, and keep nuking it until its rocks flow like lava for millenia.

And the commentary would actually read: "See what you are capable of doing when the enemy is not even human in your eyes?"

Then see Ender's Game to get in to that.

[Squirrel]

They didn't?

Pretty sure whenever the troopers hit the bugs with nukes the bugs died.

No that blast would have killed the Troopers too.

[Darth Biscuit]

She could get it.

She WOULD get it... awesome movie, saw it in the theater when it first came out... haven't seen it in a while.

[Captroop]

An imperfect analogy.

The war with the bugs (which reminds me of Ender's game, another fine us vs. them and soon to be movie IIRC) is a war of species survival.

Extinction is on the line here, not a battle for resources.

When you start talking extinction, you start playing at the big boy table, and that means nukes.

F their planet. Nuke it til you run out of nukes, build more, then nuke it again, and keep nuking it until its rocks flow like lava for millenia.

And the commentary would actually read: "See what you are capable of doing when the enemy is not even human in your eyes?"

Then see Ender's Game to get in to that.

Ah, but you've fallen prey to another logical fallacy. How do you know this is a war for survival?

What was the beginning of the war? Earth was hit by an asteroid and humans go to war with the bugs. Is there any proof that the asteroid came from the bugs? It could have just been an asteroid. Like the billions that are flying through space at any given moment (factor in the odds that a bug could fire an asteroid from one moving galaxy and hit a particular planet in another moving galaxy is beyond a statistical impossibility, I don't care how big that bug's brain is.)

Humans (Americans) were on the verge of war with the bugs (Iraq/Afghanistan) because they didn't like them because of what they see in the media. They are moved to go to war by an assumed threat of Asteroids (WMDs/Terrorism). The masses are content to charge out to war for the reasons cited by those in power, but in all likelyhood it's probably just an excuse to go to war for resources.

Verhoeven = Genius

[Scrumtrilescent]

An imperfect analogy.

The war with the bugs (which reminds me of Ender's game, another fine us vs. them and soon to be movie IIRC) is a war of species survival.

Extinction is on the line here, not a battle for resources.

When you start talking extinction, you start playing at the big boy table, and that means nukes.

F their planet. Nuke it til you run out of nukes, build more, then nuke it again, and keep nuking it until its rocks flow like lava for millenia.

And the commentary would actually read: "See what you are capable of doing when the enemy is not even human in your eyes?"

Then see Ender's Game to get in to that.

Last I checked, Ender's Game is still stuck in preproduction limbo.

[Epistaxis]

Ah, but you've fallen prey to another logical fallacy. How do you know this is a war for survival?

What was the beginning of the war? Earth was hit by an asteroid and humans go to war with the bugs. Is there any proof that the asteroid came from the bugs? It could have just been an asteroid. Like the billions that are flying through space at any given moment (factor in the odds that a bug could fire an asteroid from one moving galaxy and hit a particular planet in another moving galaxy is beyond a statistical impossibility, I don't care how big that bug's brain is.)

Humans (Americans) were on the verge of war with the bugs (Iraq/Afghanistan) because they didn't like them because of what they see in the media. They are moved to go to war by an assumed threat of Asteroids (WMDs/Terrorism). The masses are content to charge out to war for the reasons cited by those in power, but in all likelyhood it's probably just an excuse to go to war for resources.

Verhoeven = Genius

What

Resources

?

Snarky comment edited to add: If given proof of resource driven underpinnings I'll by your line of thinking. Otherwise I see it as a struggle for species survival. Now, who started it is another matter entirely, but once joined, that point becomes irrelevant, as they clearly have upped the ante to survival.

[pstall]

Ah, but you've fallen prey to another logical fallacy. How do you know this is a war for survival?

What was the beginning of the war? Earth was hit by an asteroid and humans go to war with the bugs. Is there any proof that the asteroid came from the bugs? It could have just been an asteroid. Like the billions that are flying through space at any given moment (factor in the odds that a bug could fire an asteroid from one moving galaxy and hit a particular planet in another moving galaxy is beyond a statistical impossibility, I don't care how big that bug's brain is.)

Humans (Americans) were on the verge of war with the bugs (Iraq/Afghanistan) because they didn't like them because of what they see in the media. They are moved to go to war by an assumed threat of Asteroids (WMDs/Terrorism). The masses are content to charge out to war for the reasons cited by those in power, but in all likelyhood it's probably just an excuse to go to war for resources.

Verhoeven = Genius

Umm confirmation bias?

I don't think Paul's goal was to make a parallel with Iraq but more to take 1940's propaganda films to the future, thus we get Starship Troopers. The word Troopers should seal the deal on his allegory.