Does addition of devin ad clowney mean the end of the montaineer?

[micnificent28]

I havent seen anyone discuss it so,with the new wrs coming in does that mean armanti is back on the inactive? I know he didnt help his cause with that drop turn int but,i saw saw some real potential with the formation last week and would love to see more of it. thoughts?????????????

yes montaineer lol

[Carolina Mike]

I would like to see some WR's just catch the ball first, before we worry about Edwards. I really think Edwards would be better served to set the rest of the year and LEARN his new role. Maybe next year he can make the impact most App fans screamed blindly about after he was picked.

[Jackofalltrades]

No, they had to look for other options. At this point I'd take Edwards over LaFell.

[Carolina Mike]

LaFell can at least block on running plays unlike Edwards. Both can't seem to be able to hold a ball in their hands.

[micnificent28]

i can atleast see some upside in edwards,lafell might as well be a blocking tight end. horrible pick worst than edwards in my opinon. we knew edwards would be a project but lafell being shown up by gettis is unexcuseable.

[jramsey4]

i can atleast see some upside in edwards,lafell might as well be a blocking tight end. horrible pick worst than edwards in my opinon. we knew edwards would be a project but lafell being shown up by gettis is unexcuseable.

Happens all the time. But yeah I said this as soon as we picked Lafell.

[mj4life]

clowney & thomas are more polished as a receiver than edwards is right now, gettis & lafell were already ahead of him on the depth chart so unless we make one of our te's inactive i doubt he plays much the rest of this year. for him to find time on this team until he develops as a receiver he has to win the punt return or kick return job IMO

[MadHatter]

Saints fans wrote Meachem off the first season as well.

WAY too early to be calling a rookie WR a bust. WR position usually takes 2 seasons to develop.

[mmmbeans]

Saints fans wrote Meachem off the first season as well.

WAY too early to be calling a rookie WR a bust. WR position usually takes 2 seasons to develop.

meachem hasn't exactly quieted doubters. can you imagine how bad he would be if he didn't have drew brees throwing him the ball?

[SOJA]

vincent jackson, miles austin, hell even smitty took a couple of years to develop into great wide-outs

[koolkatluke]

Add Roddy White, D Bowe, and Simone Rice to that list. Most people don't know it takes most WR 3 years to become productive.

[Jackofalltrades]

Simone Rice?

[Khyber53]

The Mountaineer package isn't finished and may see more use in future games. However, you won't see Armanti as a QB until all hope has been given up on Moore and Claussen, and that's a strategic decision based on NFL rules.

Right now, Claussen and Moore are rotating back and forth between the first and second strings. By the NFL rules, the two can be used almost interchangeably. That leaves Pike as the third string quarterback and he must sit on the bench with the exception of an emergency. By the rules, if he enters the game at all, the first string QB may NOT return to the game under any circumstances.

Why does this matter for playing Armanti? A lot of folks would love to see him get a shot at QB play this year, myself being one of them, but inserting him into the lineup as a QB becomes tricky. Moore has experience and his second bad game may have been purely because he came back too quick from a concussion. He may still have the goods and it would be foolish to cast him onto the trash heap. First or second string are his only options if we wish to keep him in the team's tool box.

Claussen is a different story. The Kid does have promise and potential, but let's face it, he hasn't had anything to work with -- receivers, offensive line protection, a reliable running game, good play calling, experience -- nada, zip. It's unfair to judge him at this time. He needs to ride the pine for a game or two, at the QB2 position or you might see the youngster (and remember he came out for the draft a year early) lose his confidence and any potential he has. He needs time to learn the pro game, develop a rapport with the team and get to the point where he would chew his own leg off to get off the bench and get into the game. He's got to want it on a level he's never done before.. he's got to be hungry for the chance like Jake Delhomme was when he sat at QB2 on the bench behind Rodney Peete.

And that leaves Pike. You know what? Pike could very well make it as a quarterback in this league. He may not have the pedigree, but he was a winner in a second tier college team. He's got an arm, he's got the height, he can move. As a coach, you have to keep him on the roster and let him develop (mainly develop some weight to go with his height). He's not a guy you can just toss on the practice squad, especially since we have needs there just to keep some insurance players for the O and D lines. He might also disappear from the Panthers if we try to move him to the practice squad. Someone will take a flier on him.

So now, your John Fox, and you've got Armanti out there. He's your WR3 for the moment but that's just a title. You look at his amazing stats from college and athleticism, you know the kid has a left-handed delivery laser cannon for an arm and the ability to move the pocket like a Mike Vick, Steve Young or young Donovan McNabb. So you keep the Mountaineer package in play because you can always send him in to play a down or two if Moore tanks again and Claussen starts getting beat up in relief.

By sending in the Mountaineer package, you can yank Claussen back to the sidelines, coach him up quick on defensive tendencies and then send the Kid back in, all without breaking the QB3 rule. What is Claussen gets hurt and you have to send in Pike? You can do the same with him, sending Edwards, a WR in to wildcat it for a play or two while giving Pike some advice or rest.

So why haven't we used the Mountaineer package more so far like this? The wildcat formations require strong, fast O-line play, which we are lacking in, and at least two receiver threats -- one down field, one short and crossing. And folks, we haven't had a threat there this year. If you don't have those WR threats, then you end up with DBs coming in from the edges disrupting the plays. Wildcats and spread offenses rely on some threat of a pass to keep the defense honest. Armanti has the arm, but there's no one out there to stretch the defense. And the end around in the Wildcat, as we saw, is a recipe for disaster.

So, in closing, good luck Matt and Jimmy, you'll get your chance again. Armanti, hopefully you'll get more chances in the near future. But it will take something really, really remarkable for him to leap into starting QB in the near future -- either some highlight reel plays on his part, or some really, really atrocious play from Moore and Claussen. And as bad as it has been so far, we haven't seen how bad it will have to get before Matty and the Emu are sent to the bench permanently.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

Simone Rice?

Sidney Rice?