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Bill Barnwell Panthers mock draft trades

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New ESPN article where Barnwell comes up with plausible trades for every draft pick. Panthers mentioned twice; I'm including the text below. I can see the logic in both theoretical options. First one essentially trades 2 2nds (we get back a 5th too) for the right to draft Abdul Carter and when you consider our track record with recent 2nds (Brooks, Mingo, Marshall), getting the consensus best pass rusher for that doesn't seem excessive. And the 2nd option drops us back to the middle of the draft to pick up 2 extra picks and considering the drop off in talent might be minimal between 8 and 18, the extra picks is a nice opportunity to fill out the roster. What do you all think? 

 

Giants get: 1-8, 2-57, 2026 second-round pick
Panthers get: 1-3, 2026 fifth-round pick

If Ward and Sanders come off the board with the top two picks, the Giants would find themselves in a difficult predicament. The clear top player available would be Abdul Carter, but they have Brian Burns and Kayvon Thibodeaux in starting roles. They could take Travis Hunter, but after drafting wideout Malik Nabers last year and signing Paulson Adebo this offseason, they aren't crying out for help at either of Hunter's positions. He'd still be a valuable addition, but New York should be focused on a quarterback of the future and offensive line help.

The Panthers, on the other hand, have one of the league's least imposing depth charts on the edge. New signing Pat Jones II had seven sacks last season, but he had just five in three previous seasons. Jadeveon Clowney is 32 years old and in the final year of his contract. Carter would be a building block for Carolina next to Derrick Brown, who missed most of the 2024 campaign with a meniscus injury.

Giants general manager Joe Schoen is trying to add players who can help immediately in light of dismal back-to-back years, but adding a second-round pick in this draft (via the Rams) and a second-rounder in 2026 from a team that has struggled the past few years is a worthwhile risk. That Panthers second-rounder could be valuable if the Giants want to flip it later in this draft for a player who can help them this season.

 

Panthers get: 1-18, 2-50, 5-172
Seahawks get: 1-8

While quarterback Bryce Young improved over the second half of 2024, the Panthers are still feeling the impact of trading significant draft capital for Young and others over the past few years. In 2022, they didn't have a second-round pick because of their trade for quarterback Sam Darnold and then moved up in the third and fourth round for signal-caller Matt Corral and linebacker Brandon Smith, respectively. In 2023, the Young trade left them with just five selections, with their second-rounder going toward since-traded wideout Jonathan Mingo. In 2024, without the No. 1 overall pick, Carolina moved into the first round to draft receiver Xavier Legette, then used its second-round pick on running back Jonathon Brooks, who will miss most or all of 2025 after tearing his ACL for the second time in two years.

All of this is to say the Panthers could use extra picks. Their second-rounder is going to the Bears as the final vestige of the Young deal, although Carolina does get back a second-rounder from the Rams as part of Los Angeles' move for Braden Fiske last April. Picking up another Round 2 selection would give the Panthers front offense a chance to add multiple impact players along the line of scrimmage.

On the other side of this deal, it's not like Seahawks general manager John Schneider to make a major move up the board, but with five top-100 picks, he has the capital to be aggressive. A move up here would get Seattle ahead of the Bears, 49ers and Dolphins for much-needed help at offensive tackle. Adding Armand Membou could give the Seahawks the option of starting the rookie at guard before eventually moving him outside or kicking Abraham Lucas inside. Will Campbell could also be in play.

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1 minute ago, Tr3ach said:

I know it's irresponsible and crazy but to move from 8 to 3 and only give up next year's 2nd is pretty tempting.  Especially if both Carter and Hunter are on the board.  I've started to really like Hunter as a WR so he's grown on me a bit. 

Read closer - this year and next year 2nd rounder.  Too expensive.

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1 hour ago, Peon Awesome said:

New ESPN article where Barnwell comes up with plausible trades for every draft pick. Panthers mentioned twice; I'm including the text below. I can see the logic in both theoretical options. First one essentially trades 2 2nds (we get back a 5th too) for the right to draft Abdul Carter and when you consider our track record with recent 2nds (Brooks, Mingo, Marshall), getting the consensus best pass rusher for that doesn't seem excessive. And the 2nd option drops us back to the middle of the draft to pick up 2 extra picks and considering the drop off in talent might be minimal between 8 and 18, the extra picks is a nice opportunity to fill out the roster. What do you all think? 

 

Giants get: 1-8, 2-57, 2026 second-round pick
Panthers get: 1-3, 2026 fifth-round pick

If Ward and Sanders come off the board with the top two picks, the Giants would find themselves in a difficult predicament. The clear top player available would be Abdul Carter, but they have Brian Burns and Kayvon Thibodeaux in starting roles. They could take Travis Hunter, but after drafting wideout Malik Nabers last year and signing Paulson Adebo this offseason, they aren't crying out for help at either of Hunter's positions. He'd still be a valuable addition, but New York should be focused on a quarterback of the future and offensive line help.

The Panthers, on the other hand, have one of the league's least imposing depth charts on the edge. New signing Pat Jones II had seven sacks last season, but he had just five in three previous seasons. Jadeveon Clowney is 32 years old and in the final year of his contract. Carter would be a building block for Carolina next to Derrick Brown, who missed most of the 2024 campaign with a meniscus injury.

Giants general manager Joe Schoen is trying to add players who can help immediately in light of dismal back-to-back years, but adding a second-round pick in this draft (via the Rams) and a second-rounder in 2026 from a team that has struggled the past few years is a worthwhile risk. That Panthers second-rounder could be valuable if the Giants want to flip it later in this draft for a player who can help them this season.

 

Panthers get: 1-18, 2-50, 5-172
Seahawks get: 1-8

While quarterback Bryce Young improved over the second half of 2024, the Panthers are still feeling the impact of trading significant draft capital for Young and others over the past few years. In 2022, they didn't have a second-round pick because of their trade for quarterback Sam Darnold and then moved up in the third and fourth round for signal-caller Matt Corral and linebacker Brandon Smith, respectively. In 2023, the Young trade left them with just five selections, with their second-rounder going toward since-traded wideout Jonathan Mingo. In 2024, without the No. 1 overall pick, Carolina moved into the first round to draft receiver Xavier Legette, then used its second-round pick on running back Jonathon Brooks, who will miss most or all of 2025 after tearing his ACL for the second time in two years.

All of this is to say the Panthers could use extra picks. Their second-rounder is going to the Bears as the final vestige of the Young deal, although Carolina does get back a second-rounder from the Rams as part of Los Angeles' move for Braden Fiske last April. Picking up another Round 2 selection would give the Panthers front offense a chance to add multiple impact players along the line of scrimmage.

 

On the other side of this deal, it's not like Seahawks general manager John Schneider to make a major move up the board, but with five top-100 picks, he has the capital to be aggressive. A move up here would get Seattle ahead of the Bears, 49ers and Dolphins for much-needed help at offensive tackle. Adding Armand Membou could give the Seahawks the option of starting the rookie at guard before eventually moving him outside or kicking Abraham Lucas inside. Will Campbell could also be in play.

The trade up is too expensive - no way for 2X 2nd rounders. 

The trade down is light - trading down we should get the advantage.  Moving 8 to 18 is worth 500 points.  That should be pick 50 and pick 100 (high 4th) to break even.  Since they are moving up to the top 10 we should get more value, more like a 2nd and low 3rd (85-95).  Also pick 172 is the 6th round, not 5th - the original post has a typo.

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Just now, Stingray3030 said:

The trade up is too expensive - no way for 2X 2nd rounders. 

The trade down is light - trading down we should get the advantage.  Moving 8 to 18 is worth 500 points.  That should be pick 50 and pick 100 (high 4th) to break even.  Since they are moving up to the top 10 we should get more value, more like a 2nd and low 3rd (85-95).  Also pick 172 is the 6th round, not 5th - the original post has a typo.

Sorry for flooding - that said I would be good to trade back for 18, 50, 85 - all day long.

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23 minutes ago, Stingray3030 said:

The trade up is too expensive - no way for 2X 2nd rounders. 

The trade down is light - trading down we should get the advantage.  Moving 8 to 18 is worth 500 points.  That should be pick 50 and pick 100 (high 4th) to break even.  Since they are moving up to the top 10 we should get more value, more like a 2nd and low 3rd (85-95).  Also pick 172 is the 6th round, not 5th - the original post has a typo.

This but a more even trade down would be nice. The difference between 8 and 18 is not that great when you have the amount of needs we have.  

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