..............And Justice for Few.

[carolinarolls]

Uhm....because Matt deserves it? Because Matt was quickly labeled as a horrible QB because he lost 2 games this year, never getting the true chance he deserved? Because it could have destroyed his career as an NFL player before it even had a chance to take off?

And all of this for what? Because of hype, name, lunatic fans and the media.

Yeah I call it justice for a guy that has waited 4 years to get his chance, who has proved he is capable to do it that was benched after having 2 poor games to get another shot.

I call it justice for a guy who had won 6 of his 8 games as a starter to get a chance to prove he had 2 bad games, with a very bad team, and isn't a VERY bad QB like 90% of the retards on here were saying.

I call it justice for a guy that has had to suffer watching ATTROCIOUS playing in Delhomme while this FO let him ride the bench, who got benched again in favor of another rookie full of mistakes, to get a real shot and prove he can do this.

Wether you are interested in it or not, makes no difference. And I will say this much, Matt Moore, through all of this controversy, has been nothing BUT a class act. He kept his mouth shut, and backed-up a guy he KNEW he was better than just to please the fans and the organization.

cool story bro

[CLTPanther]

+1 for the annoying remark

[PantherFanForLife]

Clausen did not win the job. Unfortunately, Moore has not won the job back.

This is a case of two QB's who are playing atrocious. Take your prick...neither give the Panthers any more chance of winning.

The fact is...neither Moore nor Clausen deserve to start. We just don't have any better options.

Moore is this week's tallest Pygmie.

But Moore did earn himself the start this year based on last year and the previous years. He also earned it during traning camp when he showed he was still the best option for us. He did do something in the NFL with this franchise to be in a position to lose it.

What did Jimmy do? Show up?

Now wether you believe he deserved to be benched after 2 games is a completely different issue. He certainly didn't lose it fair and square from where I am standing.

[MadHatter]

But Moore did earn himself the start this year based on last year and the previous years. He also earned it during traning camp when he showed he was still the best option for us. He did do something in the NFL with this franchise to be in a position to lose it.

What did Jimmy do? Show up?

Now wether you believe he deserved to be benched after 2 games is a completely different issue. He certainly didn't lose it fair and square from where I am standing.

He earned the right to start....at the beginning of the season.

He sucked complete ass for 6 games.....thus, it was totally on his play that he was benched.

Moore was playing horrible. Fox and Company made a move to see if Clausen could be the one this season (like Flacco, Ryan, Sanchez did their rookie season). He proved not to be ready.

Thus, Moore (with his little bit of experience) is the slightly better choice right now.

Plain and simple.

[koolkatluke]

Until you stop struggling with the "too" and "to" differences, none of your posts will be taken seriously. I don't know why people even bother reading your posts you have not been right on any one thing you have said.

Your not a panther fan so I really don't care what you think.

[TheRealDeal]

Your not a panther fan so I really don't care what you think.

You're not a panther fan...

But again good try.

[Carl Spackler]

Better to have a fan with no grammar than a fan of a player over a team.

[TheRealDeal]

So you assume I am only a Moore fan and not a Panther fan because why?

Because I was right in saying that he would start this week?

Because I wasn't on the Jimmy bandwagon?

Because I want to win some games this year?

[koolkatluke]

You're not a panther fan...

But again good try.

Put your membership on the line when matt is gone at the end of the season you leave 2.

[TheRealDeal]

Put your membership on the line when matt is gone at the end of the season you leave 2.

I'm not trying to be mean but is that a question, a statement you are making, or a command you are giving me?

Please clarify.

Also, what happens if Moore isn't here and I am. Nothing. But you are really good at trying to play the bully with the bad grammar, the tough guy act, and the calling out of others.

[koolkatluke]

So you assume I am only a Moore fan and not a Panther fan because why?

Because I was right in saying that he would start this week?

Again it doesn't matter who starts we are still going 2 lose. For some reason your in a fantasy world. You feel it's better that we win 3 or 4 games this year and not have anything too build on for next season.

Because I wasn't on the Jimmy bandwagon?

Not that you weren't on his bandwagon but the fact that you were spewing hate 2 the point where it seem personal between you and Jimmy.

Because I want to win some games this year?

Yes you would rather win 4 or 5 games this year with Matt knowing him and Fox are gone. Messing up a top 3 pick and nothing 2 build on for next season.

My question 2 you is what is better for this team 4-12 or 5-11 under Matt where he is gone Fox is gone and we have maybe a top 10 pick a new coach and Jimmy has 3 games of exp. Or we go 1-15 maybe 3-13 with jimmy have a top 3 pick 2 help a new coach rebuild this team and jimmy has alot of game exp. Or we find out he's a bust and we use a top 3 pick and get us another QB.

[TheRealDeal]

It's always better to win games. You are trying to sacrifice the experience other players need so Jimmy can get experience and that doesn't benefit the team.

Assuming Moore is gone (which isn't a guarantee) and Jimmy has played this whole year and we go 3-13. We find out Jimmy isn't the answer. Based on how Jimmy has played thus far our receivers aren't likely to develop much. We must rely on the run even more. Our RBs have an extra year or wear and tear on them. Now we draft another QB with a "top 3" pick and have another year of development. Same scenario plays out where receivers aren't able to develop and RBs are yet another year older. Defense is another year older.

So you tell me, what is really best for the team? I am going to choose winning games any day of the week.

[PantherFanForLife]

Yes you would rather win 4 or 5 games this year with Matt knowing him and Fox are gone. Messing up a top 3 pick and nothing 2 build on for next season.

My question 2 you is what is better for this team 4-12 or 5-11 under Matt where he is gone Fox is gone and we have maybe a top 10 pick a new coach and Jimmy has 3 games of exp. Or we go 1-15 maybe 3-13 with jimmy have a top 3 pick 2 help a new coach rebuild this team and jimmy has alot of game exp. Or we find out he's a bust and we use a top 3 pick and get us another QB.

You "know" Matt is gone just like so many "knew" last week that Jimmy was going to be the starter against the 49ers just like you "know" Jimmy is the future of the franchise.

Reality check.

You DON'T know wether Matt will or will not be here next year.

You DON'T know wether Jimmy will be here next year.

You list speculations as fact. You list forum mantra as fact. You list majority or general opinion as fact. None of those are FACTS.

And most of what many around here go around stating as facts, don't turn out to be so.

Oh and one more thing, on your backwards way of thinking that we should be throwing away the season with 11 games to play because it will be better for the team in the long run. Let me share with you a couple of other interesting facts:

The Lions, 49ers, Browns, and Bills have had TOP DRAFT picks for like the past decade. Do you see that bringing any of those teams success?

The Patriots and Colts have had bottom draft pics for decades and they CONTINUE to remain 2 of the dominant teams in this league. In fact it was their dominance that put them in such great position to trade for draft pics, or make great off-season acquisitions for PROVEN players that has kept them strong year after year.

What does that tell you?

[Liminy]

I support whoever is QB, If they start sucking then I support a change. Such will be the case when Moore starts again.