Moore to start

[CatfanMO]

No he didn't. Hasn't posted in 6 hours.

It was a joke about when he got named starter...

[CLTPanther]

Humor does not belong on the forum this season

[CatfanMO]

Humor does not belong on the forum this season

If not for humor, suicide might be the alternative. GO PANTHERS!!!

[Hairless Cat]

somebody pass me the pistol

[Carl Spackler]

Actually if you've read any of my posts I was a firm believer that Clausen SHOULD remain the starter once the switch had been made but I was not a fan of the switch in the first place. What I did was provide discussion and evidence on why Moore WOULD start against the 49ers.

See, they are two different things. Don't get me wrong I think Moore is the better QB and will be in the future as well but I was in agreement with everyone that switching QBs doesn't work. Hopefully Moore will play well and be the QB for the rest of the year.

If we win and his rating isn't below 80 I'd be OK with giving it to him for the next few weeks...he PROBABLY won't be back in '11 but he might, I'd say if it were up to the FO now, he's gone...but if he can be had on the cheap maybe he'll stay.

I doubt it because I look at this decision as Fox blindly throwing everything against the wall hoping something sticks, on a weekly basis. Clausen now has game experience, has shown what he can do and what he needs to work on. If he stays confident and realizes this decision was one made by a lame-duck coach, he won't be David Carr...because 1) he's better than Carr and 2) he realizes he's definitely back, unlike the person who made this call.

[Dorian Gray]

Replacing one terrible quarterback with another, then watching as homer fans of both argue which one is less terrible. The 2010 Carolina Panthers FTW!

[blackcatgrowl]

replacing one terrible quarterback with another, then watching as homer fans of both argue which one is less terrible. The 2010 carolina panthers ftw!

qft.

[Captroop]

If we win and his rating isn't below 80 I'd be OK with giving it to him for the next few weeks...he PROBABLY won't be back in '11 but he might, I'd say if it were up to the FO now, he's gone...but if he can be had on the cheap maybe he'll stay.

I doubt it because I look at this decision as Fox blindly throwing everything against the wall hoping something sticks, on a weekly basis. Clausen now has game experience, has shown what he can do and what he needs to work on. If he stays confident and realizes this decision was one made by a lame-duck coach, he won't be David Carr...because 1) he's better than Carr and 2) he realizes he's definitely back, unlike the person who made this call.

That's like saying that someone who accidentally cut off a finger while carving a turkey has surgery experience.

[AceMan]

[Carl Spackler]

That's like saying that somone who accidentally cut off a finger carving a turkey has surgery experience.

...he's played more this year than Matt Moore...how is 3 games not experience? If it isn't, how is Moore's garbage duty experience?

[Brooklyn Bully]

How do you know that? Honestly if you know that you're either a supporter of circular logic or self-fulfilling prophecies. Take your pick:

Self-fulfilling Prophecy: Moore won't be around because he didn't show us anything when he started 2 games. Well Clausen is struggling. Should he start again and try to prove himself? No, he shouldn't be staarting because he won't be around next year. So how can he prove hiomself to be a future starter if you don't give him another opportunity? He can't

Circular Logic: Moore shouldn't be the starting. Why? Because he's not the answer? Why? Because he's not starting. Why? Because he's not the answer.

Which camp are you in?

The funny thing about Clausen jock-sniffers if they are totally oblivious to the fact that they are guilty of the exact same homerism that they ridicule Moore supporters for. They just fall back on their moronic certainty of their shot-in-the-dark prediction that Moore will be gone next year.

Dude...get a clue.

Moore was signed to a one-year contract in the off-season with plans for him to be THE guy. Right? Right. You can argue the lockout had to do with the one-year deal, which is fine by me. So why did we draft two QBs then? Exactly. They weren't sold on Moore. How will they get sold on Moore? He does an excellent job here in 2010.

He started out like ass and, in my opinion, JR forced Fox to put in Clausen (thinking more butts in the seats). So what did that give you? A rookie QB. They usually always suck. Guess what? Clausen sucked. But when you start a rookie, and don't have a vet to back him up, and don't have a better option to take you to the Playoffs (hello, 2010 Panthers!), you should keep putting your rookie out there to take his lumps like so many before him.

But now they're going back to Moore. And he can indeed earn a contract for 2011 and beyond...if he plays lights out. But if you take away the Vikings and Giants 2009 games, and look at the rest of his career...I just don't see "lights out" at all, and don't see him getting us to 8-8 this season...which is what, IMHO, it'll take to re-sign him.

All that logic talk? Yeah, you need to read my posts and understand I'm one of the most realistic posters here. I dislike both QBs. But I think it's much more logical to throw Clausen to the wolves to gain that rookie experience so we can decide what this kid actually is (now that the season is a bust) than to hope Moore can get us 3-5 wins and a worse draft pick.

[CatfanMO]

Rep

[TheRealDeal]

If we win and his rating isn't below 80 I'd be OK with giving it to him for the next few weeks...he PROBABLY won't be back in '11 but he might, I'd say if it were up to the FO now, he's gone...but if he can be had on the cheap maybe he'll stay.

I doubt it because I look at this decision as Fox blindly throwing everything against the wall hoping something sticks, on a weekly basis. Clausen now has game experience, has shown what he can do and what he needs to work on. If he stays confident and realizes this decision was one made by a lame-duck coach, he won't be David Carr...because 1) he's better than Carr and 2) he realizes he's definitely back, unlike the person who made this call.

I agree he needs to play well and win. Never been a doubt about those two things in the NFL. Players need to play well and win.

The only thing that confuses me is people were claiming that Moore wouldn't start because Fox is no longer making that decision since Clausen is "the Future" but now that Moore will start it's "Fox blindly throwing everything against the wall hoping something sticks, on a weekly basis." It can't be both ways. It was either wrong before or it's wrong now.

Also, I know this is not likely but Clausen isn't guaranteed to be here next year either. Everyone knows contracts in the NFL mean absolutely nothing. Just last year we paid a guy 12 million dollars not to play football so having 3 years left on a deal worth about 1.5 mil is chump change. Just thought I'd throw it out there that there is a real possibility that Moore is resigned, the new HC brings in his new guy(vet or rookie) and Clausen is traded to a more suitable offense (depending on what is brought in here). Crazier things have happened.

[HPPantherzfan]

Well, if there is one thing I take from all this...Fox really wants Moore to make it as the starter for the Panthers! I guess so it makes his decision in the offseason look halfway smart.

I mean really? Matt gets to play the lowly Bucs, and TERRIBLE Giants team (until the last two weeks) while Jimmy had to play the best defenses / teams in the league, in the rain and in a dome...then they put Moore back in for the freakin 49ers? WOW :eek:

If Moore follows what he has done thus far this year against terrible teams we lose again!

Anyway, good luck Matt!

P.S. Fox, Please just run the ball in the redzone!