I Think we got the lemon QB in the draft

[CRA]

Obviously that was a fluke.

lol, please. If you want to judge Moore only off of 1 game and 3 quarters.....and ignore everything else then so be it. His positive play outweighs the bad.......no matter the spin.

[Jangler]

WRs and QBs have been the Panthers achilles heel for years. Maybe with the next coaching staff that will change. This is why we need a true HC that understands all of football not just one side of it.

[MadHatter]

2 games and Matt's a has-been, 3 games and Jimmy's a never-was.

I think next year after the draft we should just waive them after the first day of training camp. That's right.....just let go any draft player that doesn't step up on their first day of camp.

I mean....why waste time?

The fact that you have written off a rookie QB after only 3 games shows that you are a complete fuging moron.

Will Clausen be a top QB? Who knows.

But, to write him off after only 3 games in the NFL is retarded.

[Jangler]

The fact that you have written off a rookie QB after only 3 games shows that you are a complete f**king moron.

Will Clausen be a top QB? Who knows.

But, to write him off after only 3 games in the NFL is retarded.

Yup, using excuses instead of admitting hate for someone or something will only lead to death.

[CRA]

The fact that you have written off a rookie QB after only 3 games shows that you are a complete f**king moron.

Will Clausen be a top QB? Who knows.

But, to write him off after only 3 games in the NFL is retarded.

No more retarded than writing off Moore b/c of a bad game....and 3 quarters of play. You know, considering his had a history of playing well in actual NFL games. Moore is a young QB as well.....not the vet people try to spin him as.

[panthers55]

Also remember that besides Jake Delhomme no QB since John Fox has been coach has had a good game. Could make a case for Vinny but not really...

Says alot about the coaches ability to develop a passing attack, which has always been the Panthers weakest attribute.

Matt Moore has 2 great games last year back to back. 2 of them his passer rating was over 120.

Minnesota- 21 of 33 for 299 yards, 3 TDs-0 Ints- passer rating 123

NY Giants- 15 of 20 for 171 yards, 3 TDs- 0Ints- passer rating 139

You don't end up a five game stint with a passer rating of 98 as a fluke. In fact starting off this poorly this year would be considered more of a fluke by comparison except for the fact that Clause's struggles have illuminated that it isn't just Moore struggling.

[Jangler]

Moore has been around longer to play better than he does.

[MadHatter]

No more retarded than writing off Moore b/c of a bad game....and 3 quarters of play. You know, considering his had a history of playing well in actual NFL games. Moore is a young QB as well.....not the vet people try to spin him as.

I am not writing off either one of them.

Moore played very poorly in the preseason and the first two games. I had no issue with going to Jimmy to see if he could make a difference this season.

Given how he has played, I don't think Moore or Clausen right now gives us much chance to win.

We have a lot of weaknesses on this team that cannot be overcome with young and inexperienced QB's.

It was imerative that our defense play solid (which they have) and the running game to carry this team (which they have not). With the lack of an OLine and running game, it is squarely on the shoulders of the QB to win us games. Neither Clausen nor Moore are that type of QB right now.

I can make a case why either Moore or Clausen should be the starter....and, I could make a damn good case why both shoudl be on the bench.

The coaching staff needs to figure out how to fix the OLine and Running game issues.

[Dpantherman]

Right now the entire offense SUCKS. You cannot single out one guy and place the blame. ANd guess what? the Rams AND browns are better than us. Fact.

[CRA]

Moore has been around longer to play better than he does.

and Moore does play better. That is why he has won the majority of his starts in the NFL.

[PantherBrew]

I wish we could run the ball like we used to

[panthers55]

Moore has been around longer to play better than he does.

Expectations were way too high this year given the changes. In retropsective I think people are just now seeing how bad we are. it is hard to lay that at one position right now. What part of our game is going well. Even the defense is sporatic playing well for some quarters while giving up huge plays in others.

[MadHatter]

Expectations were way too high this year given the changes. In retropsective I think people are just now seeing how bad we are. it is hard to lay that at one position right now. What part of our game is going well. Even the defense is sporatic playing well for some quarters while giving up huge plays in others.

I still stand by my original thoughts coming into the season.

If we could have been able to run the ball like we have the past two seasons, we would be OK.

I NEVER expected the QB play to be stellar. But, I also did not expect the QB to have to carry this team. The OLine and Running Game has been the disappointment to me.

Defense has actually over achieved. The QB play has been weaker than I thought...but only because we cannot lean on the running game.

Put the blame squarely where it belongs....the coaching staff and the Big Uglies.

[Phil Dees]

I still stand by my original thoughts coming into the season.

Which was 10 or more wins. 'bout ready to pay up?