Potential Head Coaches

[mj4life]

In my opinion, too much is being made of how much experience or different venues each candidate has been, when that is not at all that relevant to a head coaches duties. Head coaches typically organize, manage and serve as a link between the players, coaches and front office. How much a defensive coordinator who is elevated to HC knows about the offense isn't really that important if he picks a great offensive mind as a coordinator for example. He has to have good people working for him not be that great of a football mind himself. He has to have worked for a great organization at some point so he knows what one looks like and has a model for his team. He has to have great people skills both managing coaches and managing players. And the list could go on and on. When I look around at guys like Gruden who had plenty of experience before coming to Tampa, you ask why did he bomb out?

Because he was a bastard to work for. Why did Capers fail or Seifert? Knowledge and experience weren't the problem, aloofness and poor people skills doomed both of them among others. When did Coughlin become a better coach? When he stopped controlling things and doing it all his way and listening to the players and coaches.

What makes a great head coach is the same thing that makes a great manager or great CEO or whatever. He needs the respect of his staff and players, he needs to hire great people who can carry out his wishes and he needs to have worked in a great system so he knows what a well run team looks like.

To that end we shouldn't hire anyone who doesn't have pro football experience. Experience as a player isn't necessary but gives a guy instant credibility and helps them understand what the players point of view.. Personality, philosophy, ability to work with others particularly the front office all seem to be very important qualities. Moreso than a litany of where they have been or how much experience they have in a bunch of systems.

which is why i like a guy like russ grimm, he has been around the skins & steelers,organizations that expect to compete for championships. he is known as a intense competitor & i feel he would put a really good staff around him

[panthers55]

I think it's more likely that Jauron is in line to take over McDermott's job. I'm not against McDermott being young, or being a WCO guy. It fits a lot - Steve, the backs, the TEs that aren't King, and fixes the initial problem of keeping drives going.

I don't like that he's a ginger, but that's just me being a dick.

Anyone remember Assistant LBs coach Mike Caldwell as a special teamer on our 03 team? Third tier assistants are still easy to get, because of pay and prestige. I don't know I see anyone else from that particular team coming with McDermott (and they've lost plenty, with Johnson dying, with the elder Harbaugh coming onto the D then leaving, with Spagnuolo going, and so on), and I'd prefer to have a random coach than Morninwheg.

That's a downside of picking up a guy who's coached for no one but the team he's on, he's made only a few connections outside his circle.

Which, as an aside, since the 49ers staff looks in shambles, you could pick out guys for various coaches on this list - Kurt Schottenheimer on defense or his current ST role, for either Brian or Marty; Tom Rathman, if you were dying for a WCO guy and could bring him along; Mike Solari, for any scenario where you don't want terrible lineplay (this year apparently excepted for the 9ers). Also, looking at this presumably doomed Bills staff and I see nothing I'd want, including Gailey. Maybe George Edwards as LBs, but ehh.

What makes you think you know who he knows or is friends with at this point. Many new head coaches don't bring anyone with them or feel compelled to hire folks they have wroked with. The coaching circle is not that big and folks get to know each other from a multitude of different avenues. All he would have to do is hire the coordinators who will use their connections as well. I don't really care who we hire really at this point, but to assumme he wouldn't be able to find a good staff because he has worked for only one team is not necessarily correct at all.

[magnus]

I don't know everyone he's ever been involved with, but his coworkers are all essentially unavailable. If you think the buddy system, familiarity, trust in people you've worked with before doesn't enter into coaching or building a staff, you just wrote a long paragraph I didn't read for essentially no reason.

Guy's only coached with the Eagles. Everyone who's left the Eagles has success, so they're not available for hire under him. Compare that to John Fox, who could pick from our entire staff if he wanted. If you think only the head coach matters I think we're done conversing.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

And to be quite honest, out of all retreads, he would probably be at the top of my list.

But I have a question:

I am in no way shape or form suggesting this guy should be our coach, but what are the chances of Cam Cameron coming in here? He was pretty dismal as head coach in Miami but don't forget he is part of the Schottenheimer coaching tree with Cowher and he's from NC. If we are in fact looking into guys like Dungy & Cowher, I don't see why this guy wouldn't get an interview. Again, I think he's pretty terrible, but he'd probably be a good strategic "filler" interview

I have to say I am a fan of Cameron. Yeah the team did not do well in Miami but he never had a chance to get his personnell in. I like him as a O coordinator...Russ and Cam together again!?

[davos]

I have to say I am a fan of Cameron. Yeah the team did not do well in Miami but he never had a chance to get his personnell in. I like him as a O coordinator...Russ and Cam together again!?

That could be really nice, but I don't see Cam leaving Baltimore for anything other than a head coaching position.

[magnus]

this is the modern NFL. The 1995 ideal of a successful team letting a bunch of assistants go unprotected is much, much less likely than it ever has been in the past. If you're getting someone's DC or OC, you're not going to get the guy who they want to replace that guy with, too.

[SOJA]

I've changed my mind I want Ed Reed as head coach

[Bj-monster56]

I really doubt that Carolina woll go after anybody like Bill cowher o Jon Grudn..I just wanted 2 get that off my chest.Next we need somebody to motivate the team snd bring in a little expierence in been an Offensive coordinator or a defensive coordinator.And next I think that they will have to be young because its going to take alot of time to rebuild the Panthers in to a good Team. And next He has to fit the Profile of the owner/ what i mean? He has to be an hardnose guy, tough as nails and traditional. Also i dont think it will be jim Harbaugh just because he is not in the NFL. Here is my list..

1. Leslie Frazier- the reason why he has 2 be number 1 is because he is expierence and been looking for a chance for about 2years he has had a good defense for the vikings since he been coaching, this year his d-line is not up 2 par like they usually have been but his defense is makeing plays ..What i mean is its not because the defense have alot of really good talent but he put them in situations to make plays..So the Odds is stacked with him as the leader.

2.Jason garret- An great OC he has been called the best in the league by his play calls and his great offense that dallas have.But if an job in big d open it up it should come down to him been there next head coach.But he also has a shot in carolina 2..

3. Keith Butler- The second coming of dick lebeau he is a position coach but he has a well lead group of linebackers that is the league best.He is Kind of young and well expierence working with the steelers..if Carolina had a choice they will hire him 2day.Because He fits the profile and he can run that famous 3-4 zone blitzing defense.The only problem is can they get him from the steelers.

4. Russ grimm- Hands Down he fits the Profile for carolina but he is just offensive Minded He might have a shot in carolina.

5.B-shot- Has a good not great offense Im still kind of wondering does he fit in carolina..

Other who is on my list..

Ray Horton- Defensive secondary coach from the steelershe has lead a great group in the secondar for a while for the steelers he is not the defensive coordiantor but has played and coached in the league for a while..If the panthers cant get keith butler they may very well be able to get ray Horton from the steelers.and most Defensive secondary coaches have turn out 2 be good head coaches.

Wade Phillips- The reason why i got wade phillips on the list is carolina is a rebuilding team and Jerry richardson is old.He fits The Panthers Profile very well.He also had had a pretty good defense over the years but it just has been 2 much talk and not enough playing in big -d..It wont shock me if jerry go after him..But his job in big- d could very well be gone.

More on the list next..

[Dpantherman]

No to Bum Philips

[Dpantherman]

[Carolina Husker]

So coaching at San Diego and having a winning record means something? At a school that gets all the athletes that can't get into UCLA and USC because of grades? And that Stanford resume is something to be proud of, one winning season so far and thats 8-5. He's a legend, a Lombardi already

The fvck are you babbling about? Winning at Stanford is particularly difficult with the academic requirements. He's probably the single most coveted coach in the college game today.

[Kevin Greene]

The fvck are you babbling about? Winning at Stanford is particularly difficult with the academic requirements. He's probably the single most coveted coach in the college game today.

Apparently Stanford did lower the Academic Standards to benefit Harbaugh to a previous standard.

http://www.quora.com/Stanford-Cardinal/Did-Stanford-recently-lower-its-academic-standards-to-recruit-better-athletes

Just sayin', not to diminish what Harbaugh and Stanford have accomplished.

[cdandi1]

any wade phillips inquires should end now. Dude has an incredible team talent wise..and yet they have one win. The cowboys shoot themselves in the foot everyweek with flags. They're dicipline is terrible, which i think starts with the head coach. Phillips is a great d-coordinator..but not a head coach i think we should want.

[charlotte49er]

No one has mentioned Jim Zorn or Norv Turner?? (He may be available after the season is over!)