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Potential Head Coaches

Mr. Scot

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For those of you talking about San Fran being a fit for Harbaugh, remember that he's bounced around a lot as a player and a coach, I do not think location is a big incentive for him to coach somewhere, and even if it is, income taxes are lower in NC than Cali...

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So, after a monday of too much work, I decided to look through this thread and do some reading as I'm watching Monday Night Football. Mr. Scot, the Cowher debate has convinced me he is quite the long shot to get here, so he's out of my top 6 at the least for now. Also, I wanted to finally make a list of coaches that are strong possible candidates and also ones I prefer. I wanted to get a really strong grasp at who I want so I don't end up changing my mind every week:

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Sean McDermott - After a lot of back and forth between offense and defensive minded coaches, I am beginning to think it would be interesting to find a potentially damn solid defensive coach. It is iffy about him only being in Philly, but Johnson may have been a fantastic teacher to him and he's young. He's turned Stewart Bradley into quite a defensive weapon and I continue to be impressed with Philly's secondary.

He could really bring the best out of an already good defense. I also think a west coast approach can happen with him, which could actually be a great change of pace for us. I would want him (along with my #2) to bring in a really solid, experienced OC, which is possible with his strong relationships within the Philly organization dating a good ways back now and again, he's still young.

2 - Winston Moss - He has become a strong candidate for me because similar to McDermott, I think he can utilize our current defense really well, which of course has a solid core minus DT. Moss could additionally incorporate a rookie-young guy friendly wc offense (like McDermott) that can produce...of course depending on who he brings in. Green Bay has been improving as the year has gone on and had to make a lot of adjustments injury wise. Also, I'd like to add he has been able to develop a good mentality in defending passers like Rodgers from the Packer's practices and there's no doubt he has some familiarity with how that offense spreads the field and throws all over the place.

3 - Brian Schottenheimer - He has been at the bottom of my radar and slowly crept up. I feel he is the type that could give a really strong interview and get the attention of our FO. As it stands, from what I read and Mr. Scot's fine work, he would probably insert a 3-4, but I find that as a completely ok scenario given the talent we have a linebacker and the manner in which some DC's like Rivera have been able to transition between formations.

I just don't know if he'd be willing to come here and become a HC quite yet, but I like him, I like him alot ;)

4 - Jim Harbaugh - I put him here because I honestly don't know how good of a chance we have in getting him. I have definitely been warming up to Harbaugh, but I'm just not ready to jump on his bandwagon. He could be a great coach, and I deep down want an offensive minded coach, but I really think he has a better shot at either staying at Stanford, going to Michigan, or SF. He would be a tremendous mentor for a young QB in Carolina no doubt.

5 - Ray Horton - This choice comes in because 1) There will most likely be a position coach on our short list 2) He's more likely than Butler happening

I know the argument that the Steelers have a system-coach type atmosphere can be a legitimate claim, but I don't see why Horton won't be a solid potential coach.

6 - Perry Fewell - He has been rising on my list because of two factors: 1) I like the fact he rallied the Bills a couple years ago and 2) He has the Giants playing very well this year, especially with defensive half time adjustments, particularly beginning with the Bears-Giants game earlier this season. I don't know how willing we'd be to hiring another Giant coordinator though

So that's where I'm at. I think I've finally been convinced Cowher is a far reach. I'm nervous about what Grimm stuff may develop, but in the end, I just don't think he'll interview well. Harbaugh may end up leaping up towards the end of the year, but again, I'm hesitant until he issues some sort of statement about coming to the NFL, along with Luck for that matter.

Also, I have been really pushing for Heimerdinger, but with his cancer, that makes him pretty much out of reach unless it was more contained and not the fast spreading type.

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I do think Heimerdinger's going to be out of the equation, and may have been older than they wanted to go anyway.

I really should break these guys down by age at some point.

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Closing down for the night, here's a breakout of the Harbaugh-Panthers connections from his profile (link)

CURRENT PANTHERS

Marty Hurney (Panthers General Manager)

- Panthers salary cap manager in 2001 when they signed Harbaugh as a player

Geep Chryst (Panthers Tight Ends Coach)

- director of research / quality control for the Chicago Bears from 1991 to 1995; Harbaugh was the Bears starting QB through 93

- became Harbaugh's OC when Harbaugh went to the Chargers for the 1999 and 2000 seasons

Jerry Simmons (Panthers Strength and Conditioning Coach)

- served in the same capacity with the Ravens till 1998; Harbaugh played for the Ravens in the 1998 season

Dave Magazu (Panthers Offensive Line Coach)

- was a graduate assistant working with the offensive line at the University of Michigan during Harbaugh's freshman year there (1983)

Brian Baker (Panthers Defensive Line Coach)

- coached for the Chargers a few years prior to Harbaugh's arrival; unlikely they've met

Jimmy Clausen (Panthers Quarterback)

- felt Harbaugh treated him disrespectfully after a game in which the Irish defeated Stanford; Harbaugh said he never say him

Don Gregory (Panthers Head of College Scouting)

- worked as a scout for the Chargers during the two years Harbaugh played there

Jeff Beathard (Panthers Northeastern Regional Scout)

- same as Gregory, but also the son of Hurney's mentor

Jerry Richardson (Panthers Owner)

- spent his pro years with the Colts, a team Harbaugh also played for (much later and after relocation)

FORMER PANTHERS

Vic Fangio (Stanford DC)

- first defensive coordinator for the Panthers (under head coach Dom Capers)

Greg Roman (Stanford Assistant Head Coach)

- Panthers assistant strength and conditioning coach from 1995 to 2001

Mike Trgovac (Packer Defensive Line Coach)

- a graduate assistant on the Michigan University staff during Harbaugh's sophomore and junior seasons

THIRD PARTY

Bobby Beathard (retired GM: Chargers, Redskins, others)

- the GM who brought Harbaugh to the Chargers was Marty Hurney's mentor and may have recommended him to Hurney and the Panthers in 01

Brian Polian (Stanford Special Teams Coach)

- son of original Panthers GM Bill Polian

John Harbaugh (Ravens head Coach, Jim's brother)

- worked alongside Panthers Head Coach John Fox while both were at the University of Pittsburgh in 1997

John Mangum (Former Safety, Chicago Bears)

- Harbaugh teammate, older brother of Panthers TE Kris Mangum

Sean Payton (Head Coach, New Orleans Saints)

- one time Bears replacement player at QB during the 1987 NFL strike; Harbaugh was the Bears regular starter at the time

TEAMMATES WHO WERE ALSO PANTHERS

RB Natrone Means (Chargers)

RB Vince Workman (Bears)

RB Dewell Brewer (Colts)

FB Bob Christian (Bears)

FB Chris Hetherington (Colts)

TE Freddie Jones (Chargers)

C Jeff Mitchell (Ravens)

LB Steve Tovar (Chargers)

LB Paul Butcher (Colts)

LB Phil Yeboah-Kodie (Colts)

S Derwin Gray (Colts)

CB Donnell Woolford (Bears)

CB Emmanuel McDaniel (Colts)

P Tommy Barnhardt (Bears)

P Rohn Stark (Colts)

LS Mark Rodenhauser (Bears)

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Gantt just said..from what he is hearing the Harbaugh and Luck combo with the 49ers is gaining steam..He said if the Panthers get the #1 pick and the 49ers get the 2nd or 3rd that Hurney should look into trading the pick for a kings ransom..He also said Luck could pull a Eli Manning.

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Gantt just said..from what he is hearing the Harbaugh and Luck combo with the 49ers is gaining steam..He said if the Panthers get the #1 pick and the 49ers get the 2nd or 3rd that Hurney should look into trading the pick for a kings ransom..He also said Luck could pull a Eli Manning.

good for Gantt, he just reported a couple days ago Luck wouldn't do an Eli.

there's one problem with the whole harbaugh/luck to san fran: troy smith has them winning games and one game back.

I think SF is a more attractive coaching destination but that doesn't mean we couldn't win the Harabugh sweepstakes, especially if Luck is coming here.

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Gantt had said just a while back on his Twitter that he believes the Panthers would take Luck. Also said that the Harbaugh/Luck combo coming to the Panthers was definitely possible.

Bottom Line: If we have the #1 pick, we are in control. That's my hope right now, regardless of who the head coach is.

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