Potential Head Coaches

[mountainpantherfan]

Mr. Scot,

Great work but I do have one other coach that I think you might want to look at.

Gary Patterson, TCU Head Coach.

Youngish defensive minded coach with a STRONG connection to the Panthers. Not to mention that he has showed an ability to at least lead a team with a strong offense.

I'm not even sure if he will be a serious option at the end of the day but I think his name will be mentioned and looked at, and it should be IMO. If you are willing to look at Harbaugh then I think Patterson is just as likely a option as well.

[Bj-monster56]

Carolina Panthers Observation.

Right now to tell you the truth. The season is over, hell it was over when it started. What should we do, is plan for the future.First I can really see everybody on our coaching staff gone next year.Mostly due to the fact if fox gets another job they will be with him more likely, also meeks is a great coach but i see somebody else as defensive coordinator next year.Second in the fox and hurney tenure they have made alot of bad choices, just been real honest. First the julius peppers situation. If you are a struggling team and you know you are, you let the best player on the team go for free.WHY? We had the opportunity to get at least a first or an second round pick for peppers. I dont really care what pick it is to be honest, its the fact we let him go for nothing. Two years ago in the playoffs we played Arizona and got smashed.Fox was on the decline and also Jake the mistake was also on the decline right then, i new that we will need a QB. So in the draft i would have found one. In the 2009 draft we traded our first round pick to Draft everett Brown in the second round.And undersized DE who hasnt produce anything yet, also had a year to work under Peppers.But in that draft if we would have traded back into the first round we would have had a chance to draft Mark Sanchez. Like I said bad decisions. He isnt a great QB yet but he would be better then anything we got now.True Or False..?

Whats to come? We should be expecting a coaching change for the panthers, if we go the next couple of weeks into December without a win. I can See Fox gone before the seasons end. I also think it might be time to send Steve Smith packing. He is worth at least a second or third round pick. Send him to a good team that gives him the chance to maybe make it 2 the superbowl next year.Because we will at least be 2 to 3 years away to been at least real playoff contenders.Just to let you know you we will never have a good team unless you have a good QB. Right now i can tell you when free agency come they will let Matt Moore Walk. Jimmy clausen future depends on who is the coach. If we get the overall 1 pick with Andrew luck on the board it wont surprise me if we drat him.Also what are the chances that deanglo stays in Carolina after the season. He looking at a team that is 2 to 3 years away from contending.He might have second thoughts about coming back he also will be 30, 3 years from now. The State of the Panthers Franchise is in Danger.

[Bj-monster56]

Mr. Scot,

Great work but I do have one other coach that I think you might want to look at.

Gary Patterson, TCU Head Coach.

Youngish defensive minded coach with a STRONG connection to the Panthers. Not to mention that he has showed an ability to at least lead a team with a strong offense.

I'm not even sure if he will be a serious option at the end of the day but I think his name will be mentioned and looked at, and it should be IMO. If you are willing to look at Harbaugh then I think Patterson is just as likely a option as well.

What kind of connection he has with the panthers..? But more then likely he will stay in college football..

[Bj-monster56]

Carolina Panthers coach John Fox had a somewhat extraordinary news conference - at least for him - following his team's 34-3 loss to the New Orleans Saints Sunday.

For nine years, Fox's news conferences have mostly been notable for him not saying much of anything. On Sunday, however, it seemed like a 31-point loss to drop Carolina to 1-7 had shaken something loose in Fox. He sounded angry, honest and oh-so-gone the minute this season is over and his contractual obligation is complete.

By the time Fox's eight minutes were done, he had made it fairly clear he believes he's never had a fair chance with this team because it was so decimated by Carolina's ownership and management. He also sounded like he wasn't a fan of Jimmy Clausen, Tony Pike or the Panthers' personnel department.

Fox has done a little of this before, with snippy references to the Panthers' "internal budget." But Sunday was his most obvious effort yet to distance himself from the construction - or deconstruction - of this pathetic 2010 Carolina team.

When asked if his team might bring in a veteran quarterback for the rest of the season, Fox snapped: "You'd have to ask someone in the personnel department about that." Later, Fox made another reference to "You can ask the personnel people."

In other words, Fox was saying without actually saying it: This isn't my fault. A lot of these guys aren't the guys I wanted. When I go looking for my next job - which I'll be doing in January - this season shouldn't even count. I got my hamstrings sliced before I even got started in 2010 by a front office that wouldn't spend any money, got rid of almost all of my veteran leaders and sent me off to float for a year like a lame duck.

And you know what? The coach has a heck of a point.

No football coach in history could have directed the Panthers to a victory Sunday over New Orleans once Matt Moore and Jonathan Stewart left the game with first-half injuries.

After that, New Orleans had so much more talent on the field than Carolina that the only way to even it out would have been to allow the Panthers 13 players on every snap, and I think the Saints still would have won.

But Fox isn't blameless for this season. He has done well with teams of mediocre talent before, but he has never found the right button for these chronic underachievers.

Fox and his offensive staff have never figured out what to do when the run doesn't work - and Carolina hasn't had a 100-yard rusher all season. There's an element of creativity missing, and it's far more apparent because Carolina can no longer win games by hammering opponents into submission.

The team provided to Fox by owner Jerry Richardson and general manager Marty Hurney, however, is laughably bad.

Jimmy Clausen got benched - again - by Fox Sunday after Clausen threw an interception returned for a touchdown. Pike, Fox said, was "not so good" in his three series.

Fox simply doesn't think Clausen can play - I think that's clear. The coach said of starting Moore again next week if he's healthy: "I think he can operate our offense the best of the quarterbacks - unless we decide to go to the wishbone or some kind of option offense."

In Fox-speak, that's a cutdown.

Fox also doesn't think much of Armanti Edwards as a wide receiver - it even sounded like Edwards may be switched to quarterback part- or full-time soon. There's your wishbone quarterback.

"We'd be taking all the help we can get at the quarterback position," Fox said in reference to Edwards, who was inactive Sunday.

Of course, Fox is not alone in knowing that the Panthers' personnel moves have backfired big-time in 2010. Steve Smith referenced it Sunday. Julius Peppers said before the Panthers-Chicago Bears game that Carolina's 2010 philosophy boiled down to: "We're going to do away with anybody who was making any significant amount of money, and we're going to keep young guys."

That explained it in a nutshell. When the young guys turned out not to be ready, everything came apart.

So Fox got stuck with it, although he's making $6.5million for this season, so don't feel too sorry for him. He will somehow muddle through.

But in the meantime, the rift between Fox and the Richardson-Hurney duo grows ever wider.

I still believe Fox will finish out this lost season before the inevitable split becomes permanent - but I no longer think that's a sure thing.

Scott Fowler: 704-358-5140; [email protected]

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This article makes me feel that there is No chance the panthers will ever get back good.Something has to change i can also see marty hurney gone also..

[Mr. Scot]

Mr. Scot,

Great work but I do have one other coach that I think you might want to look at.

Gary Patterson, TCU Head Coach.

Youngish defensive minded coach with a STRONG connection to the Panthers. Not to mention that he has showed an ability to at least lead a team with a strong offense.

I'm not even sure if he will be a serious option at the end of the day but I think his name will be mentioned and looked at, and it should be IMO. If you are willing to look at Harbaugh then I think Patterson is just as likely a option as well.

He's done well, and I know about the connection, but Mountain West to the NFL is a huge leap. And unlike Harbaugh, Patterson has zero NFL experience.

I'm just not sure I can see that happening, especially on a team that doesn't have a history of hiring college coaches.

[Mr. Scot]

I had to LOL at Sunday Night Football. Did anyone hear Chris Collinsworth proclaim "You want to talk about a guy who's a head coaching candidate. What about Dom Capers?"

I'd only want to see Jerry hire him just so I can see the Huddle reaction for one day. Then he could be like whoops just kidding

Capers is probably one of the best 3-4 coordinators out there, but neither of his forays into head coaching was especially successful.

Imagine the reaction if the Panthers hired Cowher and he got Capers as a DC

[Bj-monster56]

Yeah Chris collinsworth was saying that he should be on the top of Potential head coaches list.Also him and cowher together would be great.

[Bj-monster56]

It looks more and more like Fox might have a chance to end up in Dallas..

[Mr. Scot]

Jones may well fire Phillips and elevate Garrett. That'd give him the ability to say that he gave Garrett his shot and move on.

Thing is that Wade is also the DC, so you actually have to replace two spots if you fire him.

My guess would be Dave Campo gets the DC job, which might mean former Panther Brett Maxie becomes the DB coach.

[Bj-monster56]

Also Breaking News Update...

Panthers lose Moore, Connor for the season; Davis shutting it down, too

Written by Steve Reed

Monday, November 08, 2010 1:01 pm

CHARLOTTE -- A bad season just got worse for the Carolina Panthers.

Starting quarterback Matt Moore will be lost for the season after suffering a torn labrum in his right shoulder in the second quarter of Sunday's loss to the New Orleans Saints. Also, linebacker Dan Connor is gone for the season after cracking a bone in his hip.

The Panthers also announced linebacker Thomas Davis will not be returning this season, so he will join them on injured reserve, too.

Coach John Fox would not say if Jimmy Clausen or Tony Pike will start Sunday against Tampa Bay.

In other injury news, running backs Jonathan Stewart (concussion) and Tyrell Sutton (ankle) are day-to-day, as is defensive end Greg Hardy (head).

Moore was sacked from behind by Saints defensive lineman Sedrick Ellis in the second quarter of Sunday's 34-3 loss at Bank of America Stadium. He jogged to the locker room alongside a trainer, but did not return to the game finishing 3 of 6 for 13 yards.

At this point, the Panthers haven't made any roster moves.

Fox said he hasn’t determined if Jimmy Clausen or Tony Pike will start this week against Tampa Bay.

“We’ll look at them this week and decide who gives us the best chance to win,” Fox said.

Fox said he’ll consider giving Armanti Edwards some snaps under center, something Edwards hasn’t done at all since his arrival in Carolina. Edwards has run a few plays out of the Mountaineer package.

“You’d prefer to leave him at wide receiver because that’s where he’s been practicing,” Fox said. “If we did not bring in another quarterback he would be the next best emergency quarterback that we have. What kind of plays he would have I can’t really answer yet because I’m not sure he’s even taken a snap from under center.”

However, Fox said giving Edwards some time under center this week in practice could be an option.

Fox said he’ll sit down with general manager Marty Hurney to determine whether or not to bring in a veteran quarterback, but added, “I’m not sure there’s a huge list available right now… If you brought a guy in from the outside at this point in time I’m not sure that is a great option. But we’ll have to see who’s out there. But right now I would say it’s going to be one of the two guys on our roster (who will start) against Tampa Bay.”

Connor, who has played well in his first opportunity as a starter, will need surgery to repair a crack in his hip, Fox said.

In the meantime, Jon Beason will move back to middle linebacker. Fox said the team will give Jordan Senn and newcomer Jason Williams a look at weak side linebacker, but also indicated the team will look at add help in free agency at that position.

This is whats left of the season.It also looks like Fox really doesnt like Clausen and that Matt Moore and Thomas Davis Tenure in Carolina is Over...

[mountainpantherfan]

He's done well, and I know about the connection, but Mountain West to the NFL is a huge leap. And unlike Harbaugh, Patterson has zero NFL experience.

I'm just not sure I can see that happening, especially on a team that doesn't have a history of hiring college coaches.

I'm not sure either, but the more I look into Gary Patterson and watch TCU play, the more I like him as an option for the Panthers. If he had any NFL experience, I think he would be the number 1 pick for the next Panthers coach.

Let's also not forget that Morrison was a relative unknown to the NFL world, aside from his connection with training camp, and he came out of the Mountain West to become the president of the Panthers. I don't think JR is going to become a polar opposite of himself but I also don't think past trends are going to automaticly apply with him anymore.

[Bj-monster56]

It looks like Wade Phillips is out of Dallas I wonder who is next John Fox Or Brad childress..? What are the chances that Wade Phillips becoming the panthers coach.Maybe slim to none.But you never know.Cant really count out the older guys.It depends on the State of mind Richardson has.?

[rayzor]

we need to count out the old guys.

[X-Clown]

What are the chances that Wade Phillips becoming the panthers coach?

And just when I thought there wasn't a worse idea than re-hiring Dom Capers...