Potential Head Coaches

[Mr. Scot]

Magnus was talking on a previous page about staffs that could be "raidable" since they'll probably be broken up at season's end. In lieu of another profile tonight, I'll list some staffs and notable assistants who could be available for whomever gets the Panthers job next season.

Staffs that might be in play at season's end:

Bills (probably a lock)

49ers (ditto)

Browns (wonder if Holmgren gives the coaching job to old OC Gil Haskell)

Cowboys (Wade might go but the staff remain if Jones promotes Garrett)

Lions (yeah they're still bad, but I think Schwartz gets another year)

Chargers (growing more possible by the week)

Bengals (Lewis is a lame duck, same as Fox)

Raiders (you never know with Al Davis)

Jaguars (probably should have been done a while ago)

Bears (about 50-50 on this one)

Notable assistants from the above...

Bills

Chan Gailey, HC (better OC than head coach)

Bruce DeHaven, ST Coach (one of the better ones)

George Edwards, DC (NC native, has been pretty good as an LB coach)

Stan Hixon, WR Coach (succeeded Tolbert, was with the Redskins before that)

49ers

Mike Singletary, HC (he's damaged his rep a lot)

Greg Manusky, DC (has done good work in a bad situation)

Tom Rathman, RB Coach (was great as a player, has done a good job with Frank Gore)

Johnnie Lynn, DB Coach (was on the Giants staff with Fox)

Kurt Schottenheimer, ST Coach (Marty's younger brother, has also been a DC and DB coach; Mike McCarthy fired him in Green Bay)

Mike Solari, OL Coach (has coached other spots on offense but OL coach is probably his best role)

Browns

Eric Mangini, HC (can't say I'd be interested, but he could well get a DC job somewhere)

Rob Ryan, DC (probably wants a head coaching job; not sure he's earned one)

Brian Daboll, OC (was a WR coach for six years in New England)

Brad Seely, ST Coach (was on the original Panthers staff under Capers)

Brian Cox, DL Coach (yeah, the guy from the Dolphins and Bears; that's him)

Cowboys

Wade Phillips, HC (great DC if you want a 3-4; I don't think we do)

Jason Garrett, OC (personally think he's overrated, honestly)

Hudson Houck, OL Coach (the best of the bunch, but Dallas might want to hang onto him even if the rest of the staff is canned)

Wade Wilson, QB Coach (another one I'd love to have but don't know that we could get)

Ray Sherman, WR Coach (long-timer, has been an OC and QB coach too)

Dave Campo, DB Coach (has been solid as a DC and DB coach, could be a guy Zimmer might want if he's the guy)

Paul Pasqualoni, DL Coach (another solid coach, was HC for Syracuse a while back)

Brett Maxie, Assistant DB Coach (one of my favorite original Panthers)

Lions

(included here although I don't really think they'll be fired this season)

Jim Schwartz, HC (phenomenal DC; don't really think the Lions fire him this year)

Scott Linehan, OC (good offensive mind, but I've read somewhere that he's kind of an ass to work with)

Gunther Cunningham, DC (has been around forever, best known for work with Chiefs)

Sam Gash, RB Coach (was a good fullback in his day)

Danny Crossman, ST Coach (just kidding)

Chargers

Norv Turner, HC (way better OC than HC)

Ron Rivera, DC (as mentioned, could be an interesting DC choice if Leslie Frazier got the head coaching gig)

Clarence Shelmon, OC (good OC, could get some HC looks, but less likely as Chargers spiral)

Charlie Joiner, WR Coach (Hall of Fame player, solid coach)

Bengals

Marvin Lewis, HC (might get another head coaching shot with a better organization)

Ken Zampese, QB Coach (was a candidate for the Panthers OC job; his dad was one of the greats)

Darrin Simmons, ST Coach (was an assistant with the Panthers from 99-02)

Chip Morton, Strength And Conditioning (another member of Capers Panther staff)

Kevin Coyle, DB Coach (another guy I could see Zimmer conceivably hiring)

Raiders

Tom Cable, HC (don't laugh; he was a pretty good OL coach once)

Hue Jackson, OC (very solid offensive mind)

Paul Hackett, QB Coach (good QB coach, primarily a West Coast guy as an OC)

John Fassel, ST Coach (yep, he's Jim's son; dad is currently coaching in the UFL, by the way)

John Marshall, DC (Seifert's guy; can't say this idea would excite me)

Ted Tollner, Passing Game Coordinator (has coached QBs and TEs before)

Mike Haluchak, LB Coach (another old Fox crony)

Kelly Skipper, RB Coach (son of current Panthers RB Coach, Assistant HC Jim Skipper)

Kevin Ross, DB Coach (used to play for the Falcons)

Jaguars

Jack Del Rio, HC (I know this is a dream for some, but I just don't see it; Michael Vick owns him)

Dirk Koetter, OC (has generally gotten good buzz as an offensive coach)

Earnest Byner, RB Coach (has had a decent career in this role)

Andy Heck, OL Coach (has had decent years; not sure this is one of them)

Russ Purnell, ST Coach (worked with Dungy in Indy, but Colt fans hated him like we hated Crossman)

Bears

(again, not sure this is likely, but I'll include them anyway)

Lovie Smith, HC (fun to think of him as a DC, but he'll probably get another HC offer if he's let go; maybe even here)

Mike Martz, OC (Meat would be a fan of him as an OC or QB coach; me, not so much)

Rod Marinelli, DC (yet another I'd love to have as a DC or DL coach but don't think we could get)

Dave Toub, ST Coach (would be a good hire, probably couldn't get him though)

Mike Tice, OL coach (laugh if you want, but in this role, he's actually decent)

Bob Babich, LB Coach (has worked with Urlacher and helped develop Lance Briggs)

Not such a bad pool to pick from, honestly. Of course, not all these guys will come free, and others not mentioned here will.

[TarPanther9180]

Well, one thing we now know about Mike Zimmer. He doesn't mince words.

His references to Bobby Petrino as a gutless bastard / coward / motherf----r certainly aren't in the same category as "it is what it is" :sosp:

Neither here nor there on his ability to coach, but tells you he's not one to sugarcoat.

I just read what he said. He is starting to become the guy I want to see in here. However, at the moment, I still want Frazier.

[scpanther22]

Magnus was talking on a previous page about staffs that could be "raidable" since they'll probably be broken up at season's end. In lieu of another profile tonight, I'll list some staffs and notable assistants who could be available for whomever gets the Panthers job next season.

Cowboys

Wade Phillips, HC (great DC if you want a 3-4; I don't think we do)

Jason Garrett, OC (personally think he's overrated, honestly)

Hudson Houck, OL Coach (the best of the bunch, but Dallas might want to hang onto him even if the rest of the staff is canned)

Wade Wilson, QB Coach (another one I'd love to have but don't know that we could get)

Ray Sherman, WR Coach (long-timer, has been an OC and QB coach too)

Dave Campo, DB Coach (has been solid as a DC and DB coach, could be a guy Zimmer might want if he's the guy)

Paul Pasqualoni, DL Coach (another solid coach, was HC for Syracuse a while back)

Brett Maxie, Assistant DB Coach (one of my favorite original Panthers)

Lions

(included here although I don't really think they'll be fired this season)

Jim Scwartz, HC (phenomenal DC; don't really think the Lions fire him this year)

Scott Linehan, OC (good offensive mind, but I've read somewhere that he's kind of an ass to work with)

Gunther Cunningham, DC (has been around forever, best known for work with Chiefs)

Sam Gash, RB Coach (was a good fullback in his day)

Danny Crossman, ST Coach (just kidding)

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why do you think Jason Garrett is overrated?

[rayzor]

No not really Wade Phillips cant even coach his own team in dallas there is 2 much tawk, and there is 2 many people who dont listen and 2 many stars..He would probably be a good coach for the panthers.And he knows how 2 rebuild a team...I would take Phillips before Turner anyday..

he does? lol

first HC effort was for the saints in '85 where he went 1-3. what happened when he was replaced? they still sucked for a long time.

broncos was the next team. 2 seasons from 93-94, went 9-7 and then 7-9. next coach was shanny and it wasn't until shanny got there that the broncos turned into champs. someone built the broncos into champions, but it wasn't phillips. it was the next guy.

third team was the bills ('98-'00). he lasted three seasons there and didn't really do anything that hadn't been done there before. basically tool marv levy's post jim kelly team and did the same thing. 10-6, 11-5, 8-8, and then gone. not really what i would call a team building experience.

don't forget the 3 games he coached the falcons and went to a stellar 2-1 record with them. granted, this was after dan reeves went 3-10 with the team but still...don't really call that team building.

of course now we have him with the team that bill parcells built (or jerrah bought). of course phillips got them the first playoff win since '95 but that was less to do with phillips and more to do with a blind squirrel finding a nut. the team was overrated when he took over and remained overrated throughout.

seriously...i just don't see the "team building" experience.

he's old. he's a failed retread. he's not what i (or probably anyone) would call an aggressive coach. i would rather fox sign an extension than have wade "YMCA" phillips brought in as an HC. there is nothing attractive about him coming here.

you want to rebuild with a young team? go with someone who is young and innovative....not old enough to be their grandfather.

btw...don't take that as an endorsement for norv turner either. he's vastly overrated as well.

i do not want any retreads at all.

[Dpantherman]

Wade Philips is Garbage. next.

[Fiz]

not reading this thread but hire Harbaugh tia

[Dpantherman]

who is tia?

[rayzor]

Magnus was talking on a previous page about staffs that could be "raidable" since they'll probably be broken up at season's end. In lieu of another profile tonight, I'll list some staffs and notable assistants who could be available for whomever gets the Panthers job next season.

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Not such a bad pool to pick from, honestly. Of course, not all these guys will come free, and others not mentioned here will.

here's the ones i would most be interested in:

Browns

Rob Ryan, DC (not crazy about him as HC but we could do worse)

Cowboys

Jason Garrett, OC (only as an OC)

Hudson Houck, OL Coach

Wade Wilson, QB Coach

Paul Pasqualoni, DL Coach

Brett Maxie, DB Coach

Chargers

Norv Turner(only as an OC)

Ron Rivera, DC (maybe as HC but i'd rather have him as DC)

Clarence Shelmon, OC

Charlie Joiner, WR Coach (would be great to have with a bunch of young/scrub WRs)

Bengals

Marvin Lewis, HC (i'd take him as a DC for sure. not as HC, although i do think he could have done better if he had more control over who he had on his team. not his fault that they had so many criminals on the team.)

Ken Zampese, QB Coach (i'd want to keep him as a positional coach but i'd take him as an OC if we have a good offensive minded coach as HC who will be running the offense)

Darrin Simmons, ST Coach (wouldn't mind him working with new kickers that i hope we get)

Kevin Coyle, DB Coach (as a DB coach but i could see him as a DC if zimmer comes in and runs the defense)

Raiders

Hue Jackson, OC (for some reason i really like this guy. i could see him as the OC)

Jaguars

Earnest Byner, RB Coach (keep him as an RB coach, though i would like skipper to stay)

Bears

Lovie Smith, HC (i like him as a DC. no retreads as HC, please)

Mike Martz, OC (only as a QB coach, which he wouldn't do)

Rod Marinelli, DC (i really like him as a DC)

Dave Toub, ST Coach (i'd keep him as a ST coach for sure)

Bob Babich, LB Coach (wouldn't mind him in this capacity)

[Mr. Scot]

It's a good point that with the young receivers we have, a guy who actually played and had long term success in the league might be the ticket as a coach.

[rayzor]

It's a good point that with the young receivers we have, a guy who actually played and had long term success in the league might be the ticket as a coach.

he's older than i would like to go but you can't deny the success joiner's had.

ideally for me we would have harbaugh as HC and curtis johnson (WR coach for the saints) as OC mainly to help work with the WRs and implement harbaugh's offense. the guy has an amazing record working with WRs. bringing joiner in to work with the WRs along with johnson would be unreal.

[TarPanther9180]

not reading this thread but hire Harbaugh tia

[Jon Snow]

I think that we will not keep any of our current assistants because the new HC will want his own people to run his system. At least that's been the case with almost all new hires around the league.

Hurney may not be the GM next season, it's possible he stays and I'm not against it but who knows what JR is planning. Until you know who the GM is I can't see how you can accuratley predicte the coaching candidates will be.

If Hurney's still here then the philosophy most likely will stay the same. If it's someone else then who knows if the stay the same, probably but not certain.

I'm up for just about anyone at this point because I'm so sick of this bunch.

And as for Meeks, he's good but repalcable.

[Bj-monster56]

Overall there is talk that the panthers want bring in a retreads..There is just talk I can say 4 sure thats, that they will do.But i just know that is reported. If anybody it will be a Less inexpensive coach and Most likely they will be a Coordiantor.I have no problem with harbaugh been our coach.But the question is will Jerry Richarson will want 2 bring himin from the college ranks.The 2 top Candiates that is still Number 1 and 2 on my list..Is Leslie Frazier and Keith Butler...

[KDawg004]

I would like Keith Butler since he's been studying under a great in Lebeau. I want our defense to be hard nosed like the Steelers defense. The only problem I have with it is that we would be wasting talents that we have in Beason, Connor, Johnson, and Hardy to name a few. We should stay in a 4-3 and just build from there.

I think Sean McDermott is tailor made for this team. He's a young and up and coming DC. He uses an aggressive 4-3 defense. And would probably implement a WCO that will work to Clausen's strenghts. I'm just not to impressed with McDermott though.